Hi Walter
Thanks for your answer: just a bit of context to my initial question. I read that OLPC is not a computer project but a educational one and I like that (and I'm a technical person even if I try to educate myself to education problems -- and was a math teacher and computer scientist teacher in another life). I just thought that some squeak apps that could be packaged (ie use the etoy deployment system) as etoy projects could be really interesting for kids and teachers. My wife (who is a math/physic techer) asked me if there was - a chess program - a music program - some other games and I told here that is already there in Squeak. So we just some little tweaks we could get a lot more contents for OLPC without changing the size of Squeak (it is already in) just not easily accessible.
Will DrGeo be buried in the Etoy projects ?
This is an interesting question that applies more broadly. I had discussed with Alan how we might use the taskbar to make some more ways into Etoys. Dr. Geo is just one example. We could launch Etoys as a Media Player (we already can from the Journal, but that is one step removed) or as a Media Maker or as "Turtle Art", etc. Just a thought, but my long standing problem with Etoys is that it is so rich that it is perhaps asking too much of the novice user when it comes to finding an initial focus.
I have the impression that this is selecting the projects that may be tedious/confusing.
stef
-walter
On Nov 10, 2007 7:31 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima yoshiki@vpri.org wrote:
Stef,
Like Bert wrote, please update the system to see a newer version.
- etoy projects may get in your way: they can stay over the first
etoy window and you do not know how to get rid of them. of course there is the halos but it feels strange.
If I understand waht you mean, this is fixed. Now, on OLPC it is not easy to see a ProjectViewMorph.
- when I do load, click on OLPC, get a dialog window, click
cancel, I get a primitive fail with a debugger.
Hmm. Not sure what it is.
- Is there any plans to have access to the squeak games: SameCell,
tetris and chess. Because a chess program would be cool on this machine.
From the ObjectCatalog, these are relatively easy to access (we took out Tetris from ObjectCatalog for various reasons, though.)
I could open the sameGame because I could get access to the menu:
- the size of the square are a bit too small.
We didn't bother to improve the look of these games so far.
- This is a pity that the Squeak classes have so few comments
because I'm sure a kid could get alone the SameGame new openInWorld but if it would be explained. I think that there is a huge opportunity that such a "details" can break.
Well, until yesterday, our policy was to discard sources and changes anyway, so there were no comment at all in system browsers.
- I was wondering why stuff like skipLists are still in this image.
I'm sure that we could have a much better contents that kids could really explore.
But, Etoys experience, not Smalltalk programmin, is the primary focus.
There are quite a few classes we could get rid of, like SkipList, SmaCC, etc, yes.
Questions for BotsInc.
- I removed all references to the file system but when I play with
the simple drawing tool I could save drawing to files. So is it possible or not to save files?
It probably will be to save into a folder.
- I wanted to load my botsInc project so I put it naively on a USB
stick but how can I access it. I could not from a load from the load your project list
- Using the fileList I tried to use usbdev1.2_ep02 and some others
but I failed? Is there a way?
If you update your image to, say, build 625, the system should mount it automatically. You could still open FileList.
-- Yoshiki
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