Resending to beginners list. ________________________________ Von: Thiede, Christoph Christoph.Thiede@student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Januar 2024 21:01 Uhr An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org; Ivan Reche ivan.reche@gmail.com Cc: A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak. beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Betreff: AW: [squeak-dev] Re: [Newbies] Help with keyboard layout when typing a caret
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Von: lewis@mail.msen.com lewis@mail.msen.com Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Januar 2024 03:56 Uhr An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org; Ivan Reche ivan.reche@gmail.com Cc: A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about Squeak. beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org Betreff: [squeak-dev] Re: [Newbies] Help with keyboard layout when typing a caret
On 2024-01-06 22:55, Ivan Reche wrote:
Em sáb., 6 de jan. de 2024 19:47, lewis@mail.msen.com escreveu:
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Does anyone have any advice or suggestions to help Ivan with how to enter a caret (^) on a Portuguese ABNT2 keyboard?
I'm an experienced developer, so I could help investigating. It's probably something simple to fix, but maybe hard to troubleshoot.
Is it easy to run Squeak in some kind of debugger so I can try to track the behavior when I input the caret?
There is a utility for displaying incoming (keyboard and other) events in Squeak. Unfortunately I cannot remember what it is.
@Marcel, can you remind us how to display incoming keyboard events from the VM event queue?
You can open the keyboard exerciser from the world menu (by red-clicking anywhere on the grey background) > objects > demo. Just place it anywhere in the world, hover it, and press a key the displaying the unfiltered keyboard events. You can hover it and share us a screenshot of the resulting tooltip. For this particular issue, the preselected option (Test key stroke) should fit.
Also, how do I understand what Squeak means by the red interrogation mark? Can I see the actual chat code for it? Maybe it can help us understand the issue.
The red interrogation mark is being displayed in a Workspace in your Squeak display. Yes, it is possible to see the actual characters that are being display. It is a bit hard to describe (but easy to do). Here is one way to do it:
- Use the mouse to highlight the Workspace.
- Click middle mouse button to activate the "halo" icons around
the workspace. These give you direct ability to inspect and interact with the Workspace on your screen. 3) Find the round "Debug" halo icon, one down from the upper right icon, with a little graphic that looks like a wrench. 4) Click the icon and then select "explore model" 5) Navigate the object explorer, opening "contents" which is the Text object that is being displayed in your workspace. 6) The "contents" Text object consists of "string" (the characters being displayed) and "runs" (formatting for the string). Navigate into the string to see the list of characters being displayed in your workspace. 7) One of the characters in the string will be the thing that you tried to input as a caret (^) character. You can drill into that in the object explorer to see what it actually is. I don't know what you will see, but you expected it to be a caret character, and this is what you ended up with instead, so maybe it will give a clue.
(Actually, a simpler way is to place a dollar ($) character right before the question mark, select both the dollar and the question mark, and press Cmd + I to inspect it to evaluate it as a literal character expression. The title of the opened window will tell us the ASCII code of that character. I suspect that this is NOT a 63, which would be a regular question mark, but a much larger number of a special character that the default fonts in the image cannot display.)
Thanks a lot!
Please join us on the squeak-dev list. Your original question is quite simple, but debugging it might be a challenge :-)
https://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman3/lists/squeak-dev.lists.squeakfou...
Dave
Best, Christoph