On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:48:44 +0200, David Goldstrom wrote:

Klaus, Thanks for the suggestion. I found Scamper and installed it, but how do you start it? I tried "Scamper open", start, etc... and "Do It" but no luck :-). I'm sure it's obvious, but I haven't quite got it yet.

It should register itself in the World menu (open->) and also in the tools flap (drag it out).

Thanks for pointing me to Sophie. I can navigate to the developers site and the latest sources for sophie, but then I find myself wondering which .mcz files to download and install?

I think that Sophie brings a lot of stuff in its dedicated .image, just download it (linked from the homepage) for your platform. They have also docs for the developer,

- http://dev.sophieproject.org/?q=book

Any suggestions are much appreciated :-). Thanks again, David

You're welcome :)

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There's a video about Sophie in action, a Squeak wysiwyg application,

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag59IDi3dgQ

and Sophie's home page is here,

• http://sophieproject.org/

Look for Scamper, I think it's on SqueakMap (it may depend on your Squeak version).

Enjoy Squeak :)

/Klaus

...

Thanks in advance, David G.

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Sven Schott wrote:

Sorry, another beginner here. :)

I've installed Scamper(12) several times (I'm on the 3.9.1-final-7075 image for Mac) but when I try to run it I get and UndefinedObject parse: error. I'm guessing that's the equivalent of my beloved NilObject thing in Ruby (message passed to a null reference).

Any ideas?

Scamper depends on Network-HTML. You need to load that.

Karl

Also, I find that many of the libraries aren't updated for 3.9 yet (3.10 has been released so it don't inspire confidence). Is this just a hiccup or are many of the libraries not updated. Also, is stuff broken so quickly between releases?

On 4/13/08, *Klaus D. Witzel* <klaus.witzel@cobss.com mailto:klaus.witzel@cobss.com> wrote:

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:48:44 +0200, David Goldstrom wrote:

    Klaus,
     Thanks for the suggestion.  I found Scamper and installed it,
    but how
    do you start it? I tried "Scamper open", start, etc... and "Do
    It" but
    no luck :-). I'm sure it's obvious, but I haven't quite got it
    yet.


It should register itself in the World menu (open->) and also in
the tools flap (drag it out).

    Thanks for pointing me to Sophie. I can navigate to the
    developers site
    and the latest sources for sophie, but then I find myself
    wondering
    which .mcz files to download and install?


I think that Sophie brings a lot of stuff in its dedicated .image,
just download it (linked from the homepage) for your platform.
They have also docs for the developer,

- http://dev.sophieproject.org/?q=book

    Any suggestions are much appreciated :-). Thanks again,
    David


You're welcome :)


    --- "Klaus D. Witzel" wrote:

        There's a video about Sophie in action, a Squeak wysiwyg
        application,

        - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag59IDi3dgQ

        and Sophie's home page is here,

        - http://sophieproject.org/

        Look for Scamper, I think it's on SqueakMap (it may depend
        on your
        Squeak
        version).

        Enjoy Squeak :)

        /Klaus

        > Thanks in advance,
        > David G.



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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:59:35 +0200, Sven Schott wrote:

Sorry, another beginner here. :)

Welcome Sven :)

I've installed Scamper(12) several times (I'm on the 3.9.1-final-7075 image for Mac) but when I try to run it I get and UndefinedObject parse: error. I'm guessing that's the equivalent of my beloved NilObject thing in Ruby (message passed to a null reference).

Any ideas?

Sure ;) In SqueakMap the packages usually list their dependencies, have you checked that required packages are already loaded. If so then I'd suggest you contact the package's maintainer, Scamper(12) says that it runs in the 3.9 .images and I'm sure they can help you.

Also, I find that many of the libraries aren't updated for 3.9 yet (3.10 has been released so it don't inspire confidence). Is this just a hiccup or are many of the libraries not updated. Also, is stuff broken so quickly between releases?

There is a concerted initiative, Squeak-dev and Squeak-web .images containing Universe, in which authors provide a one-click-load experience for things to run out-of-the-box. You might want to check the most recent releases,

- http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-April/127393.htm...

If you want to have another package added to that list I'd suggest you consider contacting the package's maintainer.

On 4/13/08, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:

...

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:48:44 +0200, David Goldstrom wrote:

Klaus,

...

Thanks for the suggestion. I found Scamper and installed it, but how do you start it? I tried "Scamper open", start, etc... and "Do It" but no luck :-). I'm sure it's obvious, but I haven't quite got it yet.

It should register itself in the World menu (open->) and also in the tools flap (drag it out).

Thanks for pointing me to Sophie. I can navigate to the developers site

...

and the latest sources for sophie, but then I find myself wondering which .mcz files to download and install?

I think that Sophie brings a lot of stuff in its dedicated .image, just download it (linked from the homepage) for your platform. They have also docs for the developer,

• http://dev.sophieproject.org/?q=book

Any suggestions are much appreciated :-). Thanks again,

...

David

You're welcome :)

--- "Klaus D. Witzel" wrote:

...

...

There's a video about Sophie in action, a Squeak wysiwyg

application,

...

...

• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag59IDi3dgQ

and Sophie's home page is here,

• http://sophieproject.org/

Look for Scamper, I think it's on SqueakMap (it may depend on your Squeak version).

Enjoy Squeak :)

/Klaus

...

Thanks in advance, David G.

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Thank you. I went back and loaded Network-HTML through SqueakMap and then Scamper, and that resolved the problem, and put the webbrowser option in the menu. I was assuming that the dependencies were loaded. Based on the package description for 3.6 & above. Thanks again! David G.

--- "Edgar J. De Cleene" edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar wrote:

El 4/13/08 6:59 AM, "Sven Schott" sven.schott@gmail.com escribió:

...

Sorry, another beginner here. :)

I've installed Scamper(12) several times (I'm on the

3.9.1-final-7075 image

...

for Mac) but when I try to run it I get and UndefinedObject parse:

error. I'm

...

guessing that's the equivalent of my beloved NilObject thing in

Ruby (message

...

passed to a null reference).

You need load in order http://www.squeaksource.com/Ladrillos/Network-HTML-md.4.mcz (I put for convenience here) http://www.squeaksource.com/Scamper/Scamper-kfr.12.mcz

And then in Workspace Scamper open.

Was not registered into open menu or in Flaps, but works...

Another old friend for FunSqueak ?

Edgar

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