Hi list,
What image/VM I should use to get WriteBarrier working (methods contains references to non-existent BytecodeGenerator class)? Documentation says that it should be Squeak 3.7 which means VM v. 3.7 or image v. 3.7? Currently, I use VM ver.3.7 (http://ftp.squeak.org/current_stable/win/Squeak-Win32-3.7.1-VM.zip) and developement image (http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev)
Damian
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:31:40PM +0200, Damian Dobroczy??ski wrote:
Documentation says that it should be Squeak 3.7 which means VM v. 3.7 or image v. 3.7?
That always means an image version 3.7. VM version is independent of image version, even though they mirror each other. Any image version should work with any VM between the latest VM, and the VM that was released with it.
Matthew Fulmer napisa?(a):
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:31:40PM +0200, Damian Dobroczy??ski wrote:
Documentation says that it should be Squeak 3.7 which means VM v. 3.7 or image v. 3.7?
That always means an image version 3.7. VM version is independent of image version, even though they mirror each other. Any image version should work with any VM between the latest VM, and the VM that was released with it.
Thx for the explanation. I've just downloaded sources of Squeak v. 3.7 (the image) and it DOES NOT contain BytecodeGenerator (should it?)
So, I downoladed full installation of Squeak3.7 (binaries and image), ran SqueakMap Package Loader and....ended up with dialog which happily says: "Reading an instance of ByteSymbol. Which modern class should it translate to? a) Let me type the new name now; b) Let me think about it; c) Let me find a conversion file on the disk". ????!!!!!!. The system browser poped-up with its whole majesty & glory displaying such a piece of miracle code:
byteSymbolx0
^ PutNewClassHere
Of course SqueakMap Package Loader IS NOT installing anything any more. Thanx.
Does it mean something? The image is corrupted? The sources file is corrupted? It's a joke, isn't it?
It's becoming funnier every minute I spent on Squeak...really. Simply, anything which I'm interested in is unusable. First Magma smart start-up objects strangle the whole system, now GOODS Smalltalk interface calls for enigmatic BytecodeGenerator which exists - somewhere in space. When I politely download the required version (with this Byte<something>Generator) - I'm expected to find a class for a symbol ?????? It's a joke for sure but I do not have enough sense of humor...
So, my question is still valid: WHERE IS the BytecodeGenerator ????? How can I install this class and its heirs on current, modest, three point seve/eight/nine image? Somebody help me please.
D.
Hi Damian,
class BytecodeGenerator in the NewCompiler.image ('Squeak3.9 of 7 November 2006'). Download NewComiler.zip from
- http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Research/NewCompiler/
and enjoy.
/Klaus
P.S. the owner of NewCompiler is not subscribed to this list :|
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:55:20 +0200, Damian Dobroczyn'ski wrote:
Matthew Fulmer napisa?(a):
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:31:40PM +0200, Damian Dobroczy??ski wrote:
Documentation says that it should be Squeak 3.7 which means VM v. 3.7 or image v. 3.7?
That always means an image version 3.7. VM version is independent of image version, even though they mirror each other. Any image version should work with any VM between the latest VM, and the VM that was released with it.
Thx for the explanation. I've just downloaded sources of Squeak v. 3.7 (the image) and it DOES NOT contain BytecodeGenerator (should it?)
So, I downoladed full installation of Squeak3.7 (binaries and image), ran SqueakMap Package Loader and....ended up with dialog which happily says: "Reading an instance of ByteSymbol. Which modern class should it translate to? a) Let me type the new name now; b) Let me think about it; c) Let me find a conversion file on the disk". ????!!!!!!. The system browser poped-up with its whole majesty & glory displaying such a piece of miracle code:
byteSymbolx0
^ PutNewClassHere
Of course SqueakMap Package Loader IS NOT installing anything any more. Thanx.
Does it mean something? The image is corrupted? The sources file is corrupted? It's a joke, isn't it?
It's becoming funnier every minute I spent on Squeak...really. Simply, anything which I'm interested in is unusable. First Magma smart start-up objects strangle the whole system, now GOODS Smalltalk interface calls for enigmatic BytecodeGenerator which exists - somewhere in space. When I politely download the required version (with this Byte<something>Generator) - I'm expected to find a class for a symbol ?????? It's a joke for sure but I do not have enough sense of humor...
So, my question is still valid: WHERE IS the BytecodeGenerator ????? How can I install this class and its heirs on current, modest, three point seve/eight/nine image? Somebody help me please.
D.
Klaus D. Witzel napisał(a):
Hi Damian,
class BytecodeGenerator in the NewCompiler.image ('Squeak3.9 of 7 November 2006'). Download NewComiler.zip from
and enjoy.
/Klaus
P.S. the owner of NewCompiler is not subscribed to this list :|
Thanx.I've used SqueakMap Package Loader to install NewCompiler. Both works, I mean the debugger window did not show up :)
D.
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:55:20PM +0200, Damian Dobroczyn'ski wrote:
Matthew Fulmer napisa?(a):
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:31:40PM +0200, Damian Dobroczy??ski wrote:
Documentation says that it should be Squeak 3.7 which means VM v. 3.7 or image v. 3.7?
That always means an image version 3.7. VM version is independent of image version, even though they mirror each other. Any image version should work with any VM between the latest VM, and the VM that was released with it.
Thx for the explanation. I've just downloaded sources of Squeak v. 3.7 (the image) and it DOES NOT contain BytecodeGenerator (should it?)
So, I downoladed full installation of Squeak3.7 (binaries and image), ran SqueakMap Package Loader and....ended up with dialog which happily says: "Reading an instance of ByteSymbol. Which modern class should it translate to? a) Let me type the new name now; b) Let me think about it; c) Let me find a conversion file on the disk". ????!!!!!!. The system browser poped-up with its whole majesty & glory displaying such a piece of miracle code:
SqueakMap is completely and utterly broken on 3.7 and earlier images, due to internationalization fixes in 3.8. We should put a big warning somewhere..., not that it breaks anything, but it is really annoying. I ran into the same problem a few days ago. My advice is don't use 3.7 and older images.
Matthew Fulmer napisał(a):
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:55:20PM +0200, Damian Dobroczyn'ski wrote:
SqueakMap is completely and utterly broken on 3.7 and earlier images, due to internationalization fixes in 3.8. We should put a big warning somewhere..., not that it breaks anything, but it is really annoying. I ran into the same problem a few days ago. My advice is don't use 3.7 and older images.
Thanx. Currently I use 3.8 and 3.9. Now I have a question about package UNinstalling. Is it possible to UNinstall a package by a one-click (it may be red, yellow or purple or whatever)? I did not find such a feature in SM Package Loader. Or it's just a matter of removing several class categories using SystemBrowser? Sometimes packages decorate some previously installed classes with extra methods (like Maui for example adding #maui message to classes protocol). So, I'd be happy to uninstall a package with necessary clean-up. Is it possible in Squeak?
D.
... which I started several minutes ago. It uses sockets and displays dots on Transcipt window and I expect to stop it in some way. How can I do this? Now everything is non-responsive, only dots keep showing in Transcript window. Help!
D.
You'll need to use the Process Browser. In the World menu, select Open, and then Process Browser. Select the offending process, alt-click, and select terminate.
On 06/06/07, Damian Dobroczyński qoocku@gmail.com wrote:
... which I started several minutes ago. It uses sockets and displays dots on Transcipt window and I expect to stop it in some way. How can I do this? Now everything is non-responsive, only dots keep showing in Transcript window. Help!
D.
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Patrick Collison napisał(a):
You'll need to use the Process Browser. In the World menu, select Open, and then Process Browser. Select the offending process, alt-click, and select terminate.
Thx, but the point is that the Squeak world DOES NOT RESPOND to mouse or keyboard signals (but is alive'cause the process producess the output). So, there's no chance to use anthing from any menu. I thought Squeak has some ways to rescue a user from such things.
On 06/06/07, Damian Dobroczyński qoocku@gmail.com wrote:
... which I started several minutes ago. It uses sockets and displays dots on Transcipt window and I expect to stop it in some way. How can I do this? Now everything is non-responsive, only dots keep showing in Transcript window. Help!
D.
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You tried "alt + ."? This keyboard combination is the equivalent in Squeak for the infamous "ctrl + alt + del".
On 6/6/07, Damian Dobroczyński qoocku@gmail.com wrote:
Patrick Collison napisał(a):
You'll need to use the Process Browser. In the World menu, select Open, and then Process Browser. Select the offending process, alt-click, and select terminate.
Thx, but the point is that the Squeak world DOES NOT RESPOND to mouse or keyboard signals (but is alive'cause the process producess the output). So, there's no chance to use anthing from any menu. I thought Squeak has some ways to rescue a user from such things.
On 06/06/07, Damian Dobroczyński qoocku@gmail.com wrote:
... which I started several minutes ago. It uses sockets and displays dots on Transcipt window and I expect to stop it in some way. How can I do this? Now everything is non-responsive, only dots keep showing in Transcript window. Help!
D.
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Matthew Fulmer napisa?(a):
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:31:40PM +0200, Damian Dobroczy??ski wrote:
Documentation says that it should be Squeak 3.7 which means VM v. 3.7 or image v. 3.7?
That always means an image version 3.7. VM version is independent of image version, even though they mirror each other. Any image version should work with any VM between the latest VM, and the VM that was released with it.
...however, this unexpected question ("What name ByteSymbol class should have?") does not prevent me from file-ing out the BytecodeGenerator WHICH appeared in full 3.7 image! Wow! I'm happy now. Now it's time to file it in and ....
D.
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