etoys-dev August 2009

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code for squeakfest RC
by Scott Wallace 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

We're in the final few days of zeroing in on a Squeak Etoys release- candidate for distribution and use at next week's Squeakfest in Los Angeles. Here are nine JIRA tickets which have fileouts pending that purport to fix various issues. All of these are either *important* (SQ-99, SQ-243, SQ-274, SQ-288) or desirable-and-low-risk (the rest). I am proposing that all nine of these are worthy of consideration for the release, and would like to appeal for help in testing them, with an eye to pushing them to the etoys-dev update stream on Thursday. Please report any adverse experiences with any of these, as well as any successful experiences. To help us test these, look at the JIRA tickets, and download, install, and try out the latest fileout in each such ticket (in an up- to-date etoys-dev image): Improve Patch Tool ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-99 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13652/grabPatch-kfr.5.cs.gz Keep a current project ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-238 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13584/saveProjectButton-sw.1.cs.gz Pasting issues on Mac ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-243 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13582/macClipFix-bf.2.cs Collapse halo moves smaller sketch over toolbar ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-252 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13457/sketchThumbLoc-sw.4.cs.gz Embed screenshot in zipped PR ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-274 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13590/thumbnailInsideZip-sw.3.cs.… Use a checkbox to govern full-screen/non-full-screen ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-281 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13663/fullScreenCheckbox-sw.5.cs.… Harmonize 'grab object', 'reveal object', and 'tile for object' menu items ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-286 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13660/revealAndGrab-sw.5.cs.gz Fix colors of lexicon and instance-browser tools ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-287 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13661/lexiFix-sw.4.cs.gz Make-sibling of object with ticking script which calls 'look like' generates error ticket: http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-288 fix: http://jira.immuexa.com/secure/attachment/13662/lookLikeBug-sw.1.cs.gz If you choose to download fileouts manually from JIRA, rather than using the "fix" url's provided above, be careful to get the correct version of the fix, which often is not the last attachment listed by JIRA... Thanks to all who can find time to help testing these. -- Scott

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Sunday before Squeakfest
by Milan Zimmermann 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

Hi, Is there any get-together planned for Sunday night before Squeakfest? I will arrive quite late (8pm at the airport) so that may be too late anyway, but just in case there is an late night new-os-version-on-olpc-session :) or similar. (In case someone replies, please reply all so I can read via gmail on the road) I also apologize for not testing or creating the release notes yet. Between work and various necessary todos, I had literally just hours left this week. I will try to find time to look at it overnight today or tomorrow morning. Later, Milan

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Re: code for squeakfest RC
by teefal 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

Spam removed ... first time I've seen it. We're upgrading JIRA this month, hopefully they've addressed this in the new version. -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10042#10042 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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Re: region codes
by teefal 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Scott, Go ahead and use the continents. We *do* want Antartica :) (just spoke to a guy about Antarctica) -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10041#10041 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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region codes
by Scott Wallace 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Tim, The "region codes" currently supplied for inclusion in the putative new pop-up in the project-info dialog at the moment seem to be *country* codes, and the country-code list on the web-site currently has no fewer than 241 countries listed. Squeak is able to put up big lists in a pop-up, but it does so by putting up a succession of *segmented* sublists, not one big scrolling list. So if we use the list in its current form, it will be a huge segmented list. Thus, for example, making ones way down to United States in the list of 241 country names requires advancing to the *sixth* group of names (i.e., hitting "more" five times), which is certainly not acceptable. Do we really want individual country names? If it's a "region", perhaps we should have categories more like North America, South America, Europa, Africa, Asia? Or if that's too coarse, in any case a list of items with something more like thirty or forty entries. Can anyone provide advice here? Cheers, -- Scott PS: A single scrolling list pop-up obviously would be possible to implement in squeak, given time, but scrolling down through 240 items still would be obviously undesirable; in any case, that solution is not really on the table for the immediate future.

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WebDAV support
by Yoshiki Ohshima 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Tim, There are more details to fix up than I thought but here is a version that you can experiment with. File in the attached cs and then evaluate something like: d _ DAVServerDirectory on: 'http://squeakland.org/projects'. d altUrl: 'http://squeakland.org.org/projects'. d moniker: 'Squeakland Repsository'. d user: 'abc'. d password: 'def'. d acceptsUploads: true. ServerDirectory inImageServers at: 'Squeakland Repository' put: d. (replace strings with appropriate values) and then it should show the server in the saving dialog. Right now, as you suggested, the author field of the project info is used as the username for DAV accesses. Whether the one should be automatically selected by default upon launching the saving dialog (if the username and password can be changed, automatically selecting may not what you want), and some other stuff like the "SAVE" button should be grayed out or not are other questions... -- Yoshiki

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Fwd: squeakland contact
by Timothy Falconer 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Begin forwarded message: > From: Angel Gonzalez <angelgo3(a)yahoo.com> > Date: August 5, 2009 2:09:08 PM EDT > To: squeakland staff <webcontact(a)squeakland.org> > Subject: squeakland contact > > Hello, I am starting to learn seaside and squeak to use in web > application development and was searching for a suqeak browser > plugin. Most sources mentioned your site, but the links were dead. I > could not find anything in the downloads section. Does that mean the > project is gone? Is there a way to get the last version created?

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Fonts
by Hilaire Fernandes 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Regarding traditional chinese fonts, I asked to a friend in Taiwan about possible choices. Follow his advices. Free free to ask Pr. Hung <ckhung(a)cyut.edu.tw> more advices. Hilaire ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 洪朝貴 <ckhung(a)cyut.edu.tw> Date: 2009/8/6 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fonts (was Re: [etoys-dev] Wording in Clouds) To: Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire(a)ofset.org> Cc : hmhsu(a)mail.fgu.edu.tw That's wonderful! In ubuntu, we typically use either one of these two font packages: ttf-arphic-ukai compressed 9.7M, installed 17M ttf-arphic-uming compressed 7.8M, installed 21M Each contains both of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese. Japanese and Korean supports are being developed. I personally prefer ttf-arphic-ukai. I am also cc'ing to Prof. Justina Hsu http://educationalinfo.fguweb.fgu.edu.tw/front/bin/ptlist.phtml?Category=127 She is keen to introduce squeak/eToys to her Univ. On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:29:24PM +0200, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Etoys team is looking for advice about which Chinese free font to > include in Etoys. > > CK, any advices ? > > Hilaire > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> > Date: 2009/8/5 > Subject: Re: Fonts (was Re: [etoys-dev] Wording in Clouds) > To: etoys dev <etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org> > > > > On 05.08.2009, at 01:29, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > > > At Tue, 4 Aug 2009 22:16:37 +0200, > > Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> > >> Actually, "Déjà vu" would be French ;) > >> > >> Anyway, do we have a list of fonts we'd like to ship with in Etoys? So > >> far only Deja-Vu-LGC has been suggested. > > > > A Japanese version of Etoys is shipped with Mona-font (which is > > "free") pre-loaded. Now it could be externalized. > > > >> The requirements would be it has to have a license allowing us to > >> bundle it, and it should add a language/script we could not render > >> otherwise. The reason to include the fonts instead of relying on > >> platform fonts would be to ensure projects behaving identically across > >> platforms. > >> > >> Looking at the list of translations at > >> > >> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/etoys/ > > > > Not really tested with whole coverage of Deja-Vu and cannot tell > > that real text in these language can be rendered, but with rough > > eyeball checking, if we ship Deja-Vu, Mona, and some free > > fonts for chinese and Korean I could say: > > > > Coverage less than 1% and could be rendered: > > Catalan, Icelandish, Bulgarian, Polish, Macedonean, Romanian > > > > Coverage between 1% and 70% and could be rendered: > > Dutch, Iceland, Italian, Portugese > > > > Coverage more than 70% and could be rendered: > > Greek, Kreyol, Spanish, Swedish, Turkish (non-latin1 version and > > latin1 version), German, French, Russian, Simplified Chinese, > > Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian (in Cyrillic) > > > > -- Yoshiki > > > Okay. So we will have a "fonts" folder in the resources (image) > directory. We'll put DejaVu-LGC there, in Sans, Serif, and Mono faces, > each with regular, bold, italic, and bold+italic styles. These 12 > fonts take 3.8 MB of disk space (which should be more than compensated > by removing them from the image). Then Mona, at 2.7 MB. What about > Komika, guess we take it out of the image and put it on disk, too? And > any idea for Korean and Chinese? > > - Bert - > > > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev > > > > -- > http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire -- 請搜尋並轉寄「冏性升級」不要放任卓越大學的淺短目光用 docx 出賣臺灣 http://people.ofset.org/~ckhung/ Chao-Kuei Hung 洪朝貴 -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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latest translation
by Hilaire Fernandes 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

I would like to contribute to the translation before the final release. What is the plan? Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

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Wording in Clouds
by Yoshiki Ohshima 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Hello, A complaint from many users in South America was that the wordings in the clouds in the initial screen. As we've shown at the Squeakfest, at least for "simple" languages like Portugese and Spanish and etc., we can just embed the translation in the text morphs. For a starter, please send us the Portugese and Spanish translation (and others) for: - Make A Project - Gallery of Projects - Tutorials And Demos Thank you! -- Yoshiki Eventually, it would be nice to automate it, but it is still a bit tricky...

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