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Re: Accessing projects from a Web page
by Klaus D. Witzel 09 Jun '06

09 Jun '06

Hi Mark, on Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:40:09 +0200, you wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a trick to accessing Squeak projects from a Web page? > > I built a Web page and linked to a project I put on my Web server which > is hosted by a third party ISP. > > Instead of opening the project when the link is clicked the Windows > download dialog box displays. > I have to click the Open button to display > the project. It works but I'd rather have the project display without > the dialog box. Since you mention Windows[tm], they attempt to protect you from opening "unknown" content type from the internet. Have a look at - http://www.google.com/search?q=explorer+option+disable+%22open+confirmation… the tipps on the non microsoft pages. > Any ideas? Hope this helps. /Klaus > Thanks in advance. > > Mark > > > Mark McCarty > Technology Teacher > Winterhaven School > 3830 SE 14th Ave. > Portland, OR 97202 > 503-916-6200

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do it or not ... that is the ...
by mathieu 08 Jun '06

08 Jun '06

Hi evryone, Looking around, I have seen a lote of stuff DoIt, doIt, do it, RBDoItNode and so on... But I wondering what is the aim for DoIt. I mean, that somthing strange is the DoIt seem to be things that bind code to sombody but don't now where...? In fact I was although wondering how methodes are bind to a class. How browser done it[do it:)]? And what is the class for methodes? Thanks Mathieu

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Chess Object problem
by Kevin Kingdon 08 Jun '06

08 Jun '06

I just downloaded the latest stable (3.8) version of squeak for Linux and for Windows. After a little exploration, I found the chess object. I dragged it to the desktop, but the first time I touched a piece, it threw an exception (smallInteger>>asciiValue not understood). A couple of days later, after (re-)learning some Smalltalk, I found where a byte array was being passed to a String method that expected a String parameter. A small fix later (sending "asString" to the byte array) and the chess program seemed to be working. A few of questions: 1) If this is a known problem with a known fix, how could I have discovered that? 2) Is there a way to save/update code from the debugger? (I made the change in the class browser.) 3) If this is not a known problem, where/how do I make my fix available for everyone? Thanks, Kevin W. Kingdon

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Re-2: [Newbies] Re: self executable with squeak
by Frank Urbach 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Hi Elod, Planet Plopp was made by impara (http://www.impara.de). Bert was one of the developers. I saw a little bit from the production of this program. Very impressive how these guys working with squeak. Cheers, Frank -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Newbies] Re: self executable with squeak (07-Jun-2006 10:55) From: Elod Kironsky <kironsky(a)grisoft.cz> To: frank.urbach(a)schmees.com > Klaus D. Witzel wrote: > > Hi Benjamin, > > > > on Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:48:52 +0200, you wrote: > > > >> hello, > >> I apologize if this question has already been posted, but i did not > >> find it. > >> i wanted to know if it is possible to make a self executable file > >> with a squeak package or more packages. Just so that someone can use > >> it without using squeak or even without having it. I heard about > >> stripers what is it and how does it work? > > > > Have a look at http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3898353664 > > (sorry, only in German). This is a Squeak application which runs out > > of the box. > > > Interesting. May I ask you, how did you make that program? > > Elod > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners

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Re-4: [Newbies] Re: self executable with squeak
by Frank Urbach 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Hi Elod, On http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2006-May/000253.html you find something answering your question. Herbert had posted what works for him. I've never tryed things like that. Hope that helps. Cheers, Frank -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Re-2: [Newbies] Re: self executable with squeak (07-Jun-2006 11:47) From: Elod Kironsky <kironsky(a)grisoft.cz> To: frank.urbach(a)schmees.com > Nice, but I was curious more about the process how to transfrom a Squeak > package to an out-of-the-box program. Of course only, if it is not an > industrial secret ;-) > > Elod > > Hi Elod, > > > > Planet Plopp was made by impara (http://www.impara.de). Bert was one of the > > developers. I saw a > > little bit from the production of this program. Very impressive how these > > guys working with squeak. > > > > Cheers, > > Frank > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [Newbies] Re: self executable with squeak (07-Jun-2006 10:55) > > From: Elod Kironsky <kironsky(a)grisoft.cz> > > To: frank.urbach(a)schmees.com > > > > > >> Klaus D. Witzel wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Benjamin, > >>> > >>> on Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:48:52 +0200, you wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> hello, > >>>> I apologize if this question has already been posted, but i did not > >>>> find it. > >>>> i wanted to know if it is possible to make a self executable file > >>>> with a squeak package or more packages. Just so that someone can use > >>>> it without using squeak or even without having it. I heard about > >>>> stripers what is it and how does it work? > >>>> > >>> Have a look at http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3898353664 > >>> (sorry, only in German). This is a Squeak application which runs out > >>> of the box. > >>> > >>> > >> Interesting. May I ask you, how did you make that program? > >> > >> Elod > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Beginners mailing list > >> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Beginners mailing list > > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners

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self executable with squeak
by Benjamin SALLAS 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

hello, I apologize if this question has already been posted, but i did not find it. i wanted to know if it is possible to make a self executable file with a squeak package or more packages. Just so that someone can use it without using squeak or even without having it. I heard about stripers what is it and how does it work? thanks for the time you'll take. benjamin

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Fwd: Re: [Newbies] self executable with squeak
by Herbert König 07 Jun '06

07 Jun '06

Sorry this went directly to Benjamin instead of the list This is a forwarded message From: Herbert König <herbertkoenig(a)gmx.net> To: Benjamin SALLAS <benjamin.sallas(a)wanadoo.fr> Date: Wednesday, June 7, 2006, 10:35:48 AM Subject: [Newbies] self executable with squeak ===8<==============Original message text=============== Hello Benjamin, BS> I apologize if this question has already been posted, but i did not find it. This is what we are here for! BS> i wanted to know if it is possible to make a self executable BS> file with a squeak package or more packages. Just so that someone Basic steps: Deliver a package containing the VM (under an arbitrary name) and an image as well as a Startup which starts the VM with the image. This package is created by abandoning the changes file, disabling programmer facilities and either having the image in a state you like your application to start or adding your application to squeaks autostart. You can find a bit more in my reply here re:Starting of 3.6.2006 and re:What kind of application for Squeak of 22.5.06 where I attached some files how I do it. Sorry I'm offline so I can't post links. Feel free to ask for details, I did it just once and will look up how I did it if the above mentioned doesn't help. BS> can use it without using squeak or even without having it. I heard BS> about stripers what is it and how does it work? When strippers are mentioned on Squeak dev usually the goal is to get a smaller image for development, the focus is different but one could remove the programmers facility this way too. What you want to look for is "deploy" or "deployment" instead of shrinking or stripping. The product Klaus mentioned in his reply is IMHO from Impara, they are around here too and may have done it a different way. From habit I would use InnoSetup (for Delphi) to create the setup. I faintly seem to remember rumors on Squeakdev about more smalltalkish ways for setups. VW has built in tools for that. This is all for Windows. BS> thanks for the time you'll take. You're welcome! Cheers, Herbert mailto:herbertkoenig@gmx.net ===8<===========End of original message text===========

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Starting
by mathieu 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Hi squeakers, I was wondering how do squek start. Where is the entry point in the image. Abd so on. Have you more information about it? Thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com

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Squeak map on 3.9
by mathieu 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

Why do I have the message: Reading an instance of SMMaintainableObject Which modern class should I translate to? I don't know what to do.. Thanks, Mathieu ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com

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by bsa_listes_diff 06 Jun '06

06 Jun '06

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