Beginners September 2006

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downloading 3.9
by Chuck Smith 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

HI All, I have just downloaded 3.9 and have 56 image. I pick to update and got another folder. How do I know that I have open the 58.. that it said it update to when at the top to of the window it still says 56..? Chuck Smith

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what does Squeak leave out?
by Jerry Muelver 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Cincom Smalltalk is a 640Meg download. Squeak is a 17Meg download. What's missing from Squeak? ---- Jerry Muelver

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firewall question -- htaccess authentication @ proxy-server/firewall
by Dave Raymer 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Gentlebeings, Using Squeak3.8-6665full.image I've been tryting to get this to work for three days now without success [htaccess authentication] -- I've looked at all the posts I can find in various mail archives and I've looked at all the web pages. Basically, I need to get FTP and HTTP running through the corporate firewall/proxy that requires htaccess authentication. Is there a patch to make this work? thanks, - dave

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Monticello -- where is it?
by Aleksej 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Hello May be a silly question. The are about hundred classes in "Monticello-xxx" categories. But how to use it? What is "Monticello browser" and how to run it? Good luck. Aleksej

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[interceptingCmdKeys]
by Steve Moffitt 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Hi again. Same problem really. I was not able to change my cmd key mapping even with KeyBinder -- using the cmd key combination I wanted. There has to be a dictionary or something that holds these associations that has to be changed there. I'm having the same problem with Romain's BrowserBooster -- which uses cmd-1 to bring up the Transporter -- and even though he tries to change it with Services -- it remains as the system uses it -- top of page. Steve

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How to do a Image Upgrade?
by Gerhard Brauer 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Hello, i'm running Squeak on Gentoo Linux. I want to try the GTK-Plugin and the author told me to use a 3.9 Image (i've got errors on my 3.8 iamge). Now i thougt about how to do such a upgrade the best way. In my old 3.8 image i have not much "new stuff". My own code is organized by monticello and file in/out. I was able to import my code into the new started 3.9 image. But the projects fail to load (these are mostly test projects, nothing important, nothing which i can't "restore" from my sources) The errors on project reloading points to some "Wonderland" classes/methodes, "Cameras"(?) which i never used in these projects. Now i would like to know if there's a recommend way to do a image ugrade. I searched (a little) in mailing lists and FAQs but i found nothing similar to a "walkthrough solution". My skills in Smalltalk are a antique (Smalltalk V/DOS) and the "world" (Squeak) changed a lot... ;-) Beside the generally way for an upgrade i have some special questions: a) The projects mentioned above. Are these image dependent? b) Should i do image(-version) regulary updates ? c) What about on code changes in classes that came (new) with an image. For example i add methods in magnitude classes. Should i do this in the class hierachy (directly in/under Magnitude) or better in an own hierachy that could be managed by monticello? If it's not clear what i mean (my english isn't the best): how to rescue my whole work from a current image to a new image? TIA Gerhard -- HAL is running Windows...

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Re-5: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it?
by Frank Urbach 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

me too. :-) Frank > I like it though and I'm happy with having a German document. > > Thank you! > > Herbert mailto:herbertkoenig@gmx.net > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners

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Re-4: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it?
by Frank Urbach 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Hallo Patty, in my opinion it is not so necessary, but it has a fresh style and is usefull for beginners like me. I thougt you have it also in english. Cheers, Frank -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Re-2: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it? (13-Sep-2006 16:26) From: peppermint-p <peppermint-p(a)web.de> To: frank.urbach(a)schmees.com > Hallo Frank, > > no, my tutorial is not available in english. I could translate it, but I > think that this is not necessary, because there still exists some > english material. But if you don't agree, I can translate it. > > Patty > > Frank Urbach schrieb: > > Hallo Petty! > > > > Thanks für your attachement. I'm a german and for me it's very usefull :-). > > Can you > > send the english version to the list? I think you have it. > > > > Cheers, > > Frank > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it? (12-Sep-2006 19:08) > > From: peppermint-patty <peppermint-p(a)web.de> > > To: frank.urbach(a)schmees.com > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> last year I was tutoring a university course starting with Squeak. There > > >> the students had to use Monticello and subversion too. I collected a few > > >> links and wrote some Tutorials by myself: > >> > >> Here they are: > >> > >> http://www.wiresong.ca/Monticello/ > >> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/Squeak/Monticello > >> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/%7Educasse/Teaching/CoursAnnecy/0506-M1-OOP/ > >> > >> And my Tutorial is attached (right now I have no place to put it, sorry, > > >> but the file is not that large), but it is in written in german > >> language. I don't now whether it is usefull for you or anybody except > >> germans ;) > >> > >> best regards, > >> > >> Patty > >> > >> > >> > >> Ron Teitelbaum schrieb: > >> > >>> Hello Aleksej, > >>> > >>> I think it is a very good question. I would encourage all newbies to > start > >>> with Monticello and learn about how to organize their work before > starting > >>> of to change the world. > >>> > >>> There are a few things to understand about Monticello first. The most > >>> important thing about Monticello is that it is a code version manager. > It' > >>> s > >>> job is to store versions, retrieve the latest version, find conflicts ( > when > >>> two programmers change the same source), and to show history and code > >>> branches. What it does not do is organize your code, solve conflicts > >>> (thought it does provide tools for you to do it), save your code for > you > >>> (don't laugh ENVY does!), or replace proper workflow. > >>> > >>> There are different types of repositories. For this discussion let's > just > >>> talk about package-cache and http. Package-cache is created for you > and is > >>> updated when you load new packages, (like from squeakmap), or > automatically > >>> when you save Monticello packages. It is file based and you can find > it in > >>> your squeak directory on your computer. Http repositories are like > >>> www.squeaksource.com . It is a shared area where you can define > projects, > >>> store your code, share it with others if you want and post to squeakmap. > > >>> > >>> How-to! > >>> > >>> On the world menu select open.. > Monticello browser. This opens up > the > >>> Monticello browser. What you will see is packages that are already > added > >>> to > >>> your browser. There are many packages added by default. For each > package > >>> on the left you will see repositories on the right. Packages can be in > >>> multiple repositories. If you think of code branches this makes sense. > > >>> > >>> To add a package from an Http repository you should unclick the package > on > >>> the left, then press the +Repository button. Now select the Http type > >>> repository. This brings up a string that looks like this: > >>> > >>> MCHttpRepository > >>> location: 'http://foo.com/bar' > >>> user: 'squeak' > >>> password: 'squeak' > >>> > >>> you should replace the foo.com/bar with the repository you are > interested > >>> in. For example > >>> > >>> MCHttpRepository > >>> location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography' > >>> user: '' > >>> password: '' > >>> > >>> if you have a user name and password on squeaksource then you can add > them > >>> to the string. > >>> > >>> After accepting your new repository definition you can hit the open > button. > >>> This will show you packages that live inside the repository. In the > >>> repository browser you will see packages on the left and version on the > >>> right. You can select one of the package versions and browse it, or > view a > >>> history, or see changes, or load it, and other things too but that's a > good > >>> starting point. > >>> > >>> When you are make a change to a package, back on the regular Monticello > >>> browser you will see an asterisk (*) before the package name. If you > want > >>> to update the repository with your new version, you need to save it. > >>> Select > >>> the package and the repository you want to save too and press save. > You > >>> should always type in some notes as to what change you made then accept > it. > >>> > >>> There is more, like working in a clean image, upgrading images, using > >>> Monticello configurations, running your own squeaksource image, version > >>> numbering, or how to handle conflicts. There is good documentation > about > >>> these things available on-line but we could talk about those if anyone > is > >>> interested. > >>> > >>> Hope that helps, > >>> > >>> Happy coding > >>> > >>> Ron Teitelbaum > >>> President / Principal Software Engineer > >>> US Medical Record Specialists > >>> Ron(a)USMedRec.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: beginners-bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:beginners- > >>>> bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Aleksej > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:08 PM > >>>> To: beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> Subject: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it? > >>>> > >>>> Hello > >>>> > >>>> May be a silly question. > >>>> The are about hundred classes in "Monticello-xxx" categories. But how > >>>> to use it? What is "Monticello browser" and how to run it? > >>>> > >>>> Good luck. > >>>> Aleksej > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Beginners mailing list > >>>> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > >>>> > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Beginners mailing list > >>> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Beginners mailing list > > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners

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Re-2: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it?
by Frank Urbach 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Hallo Petty! Thanks für your attachement. I'm a german and for me it's very usefull :-). Can you send the english version to the list? I think you have it. Cheers, Frank -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it? (12-Sep-2006 19:08) From: peppermint-patty <peppermint-p(a)web.de> To: frank.urbach(a)schmees.com > Hi, > > last year I was tutoring a university course starting with Squeak. There > the students had to use Monticello and subversion too. I collected a few > links and wrote some Tutorials by myself: > > Here they are: > > http://www.wiresong.ca/Monticello/ > http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/Squeak/Monticello > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/%7Educasse/Teaching/CoursAnnecy/0506-M1-OOP/ > > And my Tutorial is attached (right now I have no place to put it, sorry, > but the file is not that large), but it is in written in german > language. I don't now whether it is usefull for you or anybody except > germans ;) > > best regards, > > Patty > > > > Ron Teitelbaum schrieb: > > Hello Aleksej, > > > > I think it is a very good question. I would encourage all newbies to start > > with Monticello and learn about how to organize their work before starting > > of to change the world. > > > > There are a few things to understand about Monticello first. The most > > important thing about Monticello is that it is a code version manager. It' > > s > > job is to store versions, retrieve the latest version, find conflicts (when > > two programmers change the same source), and to show history and code > > branches. What it does not do is organize your code, solve conflicts > > (thought it does provide tools for you to do it), save your code for you > > (don't laugh ENVY does!), or replace proper workflow. > > > > There are different types of repositories. For this discussion let's just > > talk about package-cache and http. Package-cache is created for you and is > > updated when you load new packages, (like from squeakmap), or automatically > > when you save Monticello packages. It is file based and you can find it in > > your squeak directory on your computer. Http repositories are like > > www.squeaksource.com . It is a shared area where you can define projects, > > store your code, share it with others if you want and post to squeakmap. > > > > How-to! > > > > On the world menu select open.. > Monticello browser. This opens up the > > Monticello browser. What you will see is packages that are already added > > to > > your browser. There are many packages added by default. For each package > > on the left you will see repositories on the right. Packages can be in > > multiple repositories. If you think of code branches this makes sense. > > > > To add a package from an Http repository you should unclick the package on > > the left, then press the +Repository button. Now select the Http type > > repository. This brings up a string that looks like this: > > > > MCHttpRepository > > location: 'http://foo.com/bar' > > user: 'squeak' > > password: 'squeak' > > > > you should replace the foo.com/bar with the repository you are interested > > in. For example > > > > MCHttpRepository > > location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography' > > user: '' > > password: '' > > > > if you have a user name and password on squeaksource then you can add them > > to the string. > > > > After accepting your new repository definition you can hit the open button. > > This will show you packages that live inside the repository. In the > > repository browser you will see packages on the left and version on the > > right. You can select one of the package versions and browse it, or view a > > history, or see changes, or load it, and other things too but that's a good > > starting point. > > > > When you are make a change to a package, back on the regular Monticello > > browser you will see an asterisk (*) before the package name. If you want > > to update the repository with your new version, you need to save it. > > Select > > the package and the repository you want to save too and press save. You > > should always type in some notes as to what change you made then accept it. > > > > There is more, like working in a clean image, upgrading images, using > > Monticello configurations, running your own squeaksource image, version > > numbering, or how to handle conflicts. There is good documentation about > > these things available on-line but we could talk about those if anyone is > > interested. > > > > Hope that helps, > > > > Happy coding > > > > Ron Teitelbaum > > President / Principal Software Engineer > > US Medical Record Specialists > > Ron(a)USMedRec.com > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: beginners-bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:beginners- > >> bounces(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Aleksej > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:08 PM > >> To: beginners-request(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >> Subject: [Newbies] Monticello -- where is it? > >> > >> Hello > >> > >> May be a silly question. > >> The are about hundred classes in "Monticello-xxx" categories. But how > >> to use it? What is "Monticello browser" and how to run it? > >> > >> Good luck. > >> Aleksej > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Beginners mailing list > >> Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Beginners mailing list > > Beginners(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > > >

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Bern 3.10.06 Fwd: Squeak Stammtisch
by Marcus Denker 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

Hi, There will be an instatiation of the squeak related regular-small- informal-meeting-in-a-pub (or whatever "Stammtisch" can be translated to) in Berne on the 3.10.06 (Tuesday). One idea is to take this opportunity to plan a little the bigger Smalltalk meeting later in october. Marcus Begin forwarded message: > From: Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Date: 12. September 2006 11:51:32 GMT+02:00 > To: Squeak in Germany / Squeak in Deutschland <squeak- > ev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > Cc: "SCG (all)" <scg-all(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Subject: Squeak Stammtisch 3.10.06 > > Hallo, > > Am 3.10 gibt's wieder einen Stammtisch in Bern: > > Wann? Diestag, 03.10, ab 17:30 > Wo: Altes Tramdepot, Bern > http://www.altestramdepot.ch/ > > > Themen: > -> Planung Smalltalk Party. > -> Mondrian (http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/mondrian/) Portierung nach > Squeak. > > Marcus

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