seaside December 2002

seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org

19 participants
26 discussions

Debugger not highlighting the right code
by Derek Brans 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

My Debugger is behaving weird when debugging seaside applications. Both browser debugger and regular debugger are highlighting the wrong section of code. For example: I put in a halt into a function and when the debugger pops up it is not highlighting the halt command, even though it is the halt that caused the debugger to popup. Actually, things look really messed up. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. The application and code is running at: http://24.68.112.62:8000/seaside/WebDVS I'm working on a FileList component and I'm trying to render it inside of WebDVS. You will get an error immediately, but the highlighted code seems to be of no help. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks. Nerd on a Wire: Web and Information Solutions Website Design - Database Systems - Site Hosting 604.874.6463 mailto:info@nerdonawire.com For more information, visit http://nerdonawire.com

2 5

Browse Toolbar Link
by Jeffrey Odell 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

In following the tutorial with Seaside 2.0.4, the Browser link displays the heading "System Browser" but nothing else. There is a significant amount of HTML generated but it is not displaying on IE 6.0. Has anyone else experienced this? TIA - jlo

3 12

Seaside2: separation between content and presentation
by Alain Fischer 03 Dec '02

03 Dec '02

Hi Seasiders, I have taken time to look at the new Seaside2. Congratulation, its a nice piece of work. I like the way you have handled the Component history through the ManagedObject class. There is only one minor drawback I see: We could not use the "inst var refs..." menu of the browser. But I wanted to know the vision of all seasiders about separation between content and presentation. When I make a web site for a customer, the common way to proceed is that I receive an html prototype of the pages I must generate then I transform them using the webObjects tools in templates. It's easy if the templates are not organised too hierarchicaly, otherwise it could be difficult. What is the future of Seaside2 (the Marquez part) ? When will be Marquez released even if it is experimental ? What is manner to handle this separation of you other web programmer ? Has I see it, there is multiple way to do this: 1) Using the templates of seaside0.94 + very near to WebObjects, easy for simple templates - hard to do when the templates are hierachical. 2) Using XML/XSL style sheet (transformation could be on client browser or on the server side) + w3c standard - not well supported on browser, authoring tools and web designer. 3) Converting html page in HTMLGenerator code A way to explore. Perhaps coupled with the refactoring browser to cut one page in hierachical component. Some tool like object explorer modified to see only html structure could bee good too. Alain Fischer

4 20

Seaside Development. What goes on behind the scenes? What are the next steps?
by Derek Brans 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Who is on the development team right now? What are you working on? Are there any goals for Seaside? What are the next steps? Thank you, Derek Nerd on a Wire: Web and Information Solutions Website Design - Database Systems - Site Hosting 604.874.6463 mailto:info@nerdonawire.com For more information, visit http://nerdonawire.com

3 8

WAContainer demystified
by Derek Brans 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

If I understand correctly, the purpose of WAContainer is to catch "call:" calls, which would otherwise trickle up to the top-level component and replace the entire screen. Is there any other purpose? Question: Why does the multicounter example use containers? There are no calls to "call:" in that example. Thanks, Derek Nerd on a Wire: Web and Information Solutions Website Design - Database Systems - Site Hosting 604.874.6463 mailto:info@nerdonawire.com For more information, visit http://nerdonawire.com

2 1

continuations and other mythical seaside things.
by Derek Brans 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

I am working on bringing the calendar application up to Seaside standards and I have some questions. Could you explain how continuations work? I understand that they store the state of execution of program control at a particular point in the program's execution, but how is this achieved? Does CC stand for continuation, as in callCC? Take a simple example, like WAContainer>>call. What does that do? What is a container? Also, if someone wanted to start putting short class comments into these classes, (it really woudn't take that long), how would they do it? I guess they'd need to have checkin privileges on SF? Thank you very much, Derek Nerd on a Wire: Web and Information Solutions Website Design - Database Systems - Site Hosting 604.874.6463 mailto:info@nerdonawire.com For more information, visit http://nerdonawire.com

3 2

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

seaside December 2002