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Development image for Seaside 2.8 final?
by Conrad Taylor 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Hi, is there a dev-image for Squeak 3.10 that supports Seaside 2.8 final? Thanks, -Conrad

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SeasideTesting for 2.8
by michal-list＠auf.net 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

hi - Is there a version of SeasideTesting that will run on Seaside 2.8?

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WALabelledFormDialog input field length
by Ernst 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

WALabelledFormDialog renders the visible input fields with a default length. How can one change that length? Thank you, Ernst

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Re: [Seaside] gemstone / appliance / ISP options
by James Foster 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Giorgio, There are actually two, unrelated issues, here. First, "itsme123" thought that GLASS would be available only through VMware. I saw that and jumped in with the answer that he/she did not need VMware. As you point out, however, the other (probally more important) question is what hosting options are available (without regard to how it is actually installed). My perception is that "shared" hosting is available for more traditional usage patterns (Apache, Perl, PHP, MYSQL), but less available for non-traditional and 64-bigt applications (including Seaside). Further, my perception is that "shared" vs. "dedicated" is simply a shorthand for whether you have root access and how much of the machine can you use (my guess is that even a "dedicated" machine is rarely a separate box but is almost certainly a virtual machine inside a much larger box). Thus, the most ultimate question is "What will it cost?" not "What name does the hosting company apply to service?" Note that there is nothing to prevent someone in the community from leasing a dedicated machine, and subleasing portions of it to others. I assume that this is what is happening at http://www.seasidehosting.st/ (which provides free hosting for non-commercial Squeak Seaside applications). James giorgio ferraris wrote: > James, > > If I'm not wrong, this is just one of the two options itsme213 pointed > at: dedicated host. > I have the suspect that this is the only option for having a seaside > app running on the WEB, will it be a Gemstone, VW, Squeak or Dolphin > based one. > I would like to be wrong. > Someone know of other ways? > > Ciao > > Giorgio > > > > On Nov 4, 2007 9:34 AM, James Foster <Smalltalk(a)jgfoster.net> wrote: > >> itsme213 wrote: >> >>> I've been asking some ISPs what hosting options they have to run a VMWare >>> appliance (afaik that is the only way gemstone/s web edition will be >>> available). So far the ones I have asked have all said either (a) look >>> elsewhere, or (b) dedicated hosting only. >>> >>> Is it true that this will not even be runnable (on typical ISPs) on VPS >>> hosting programs? Any ideas on ISPs to consider? >>> >>> >> The VMware appliance is a way to get a pre-configured GLASS (GemStone, >> Linux, Apache, Seaside, Smalltalk). While we expect that it will be an >> attractive way for most people to try out GLASS, you will have the >> option of doing all the setup and configuration yourself--if that is >> what you want/need. In that case, the thing to ask for when looking for >> hosting plans is simply "64-bit Linux." For example, I just did a Google >> search for "64-bit Linux hosting" that led me to >> http://www.calpop.com/dedicated.html which offers root access to a Core >> 2 Duo with Ubuntu 64-bit Linux for $135/month. >> >> James Foster >> >> P.S. Do you have a name you are willing to share? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> >> > > >

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HttpView2 1.1-beta available on Squeak Map
by Giovanni Corriga 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

Hello, the beta release of the HttpView2 web framework is now available on Squeak Map. Highlights of this new version include: - A generic Canvas system - A specialized XHTML Canvas/Painter system, inspired by Seaside's one - Code reorganization and bug fixes Please send you feedback and/or bug fixes to giovanni(a)corriga.net . Giovanni

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gemstone / appliance / ISP options
by itsme213 04 Nov '07

04 Nov '07

I've been asking some ISPs what hosting options they have to run a VMWare appliance (afaik that is the only way gemstone/s web edition will be available). So far the ones I have asked have all said either (a) look elsewhere, or (b) dedicated hosting only. Is it true that this will not even be runnable (on typical ISPs) on VPS hosting programs? Any ideas on ISPs to consider?

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How to deal with expired sessions on Ajax callbacks
by Alexandre Paes 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

Hi seasiders, Does anyone have any process of dealing with expired sessions on Ajax callbacks? This is very annoying when the session expires but the application is still open on the browser, the client is left without the functionality and without any insight into why the application is not responding. Cheers, Alex Paes

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YUI
by merlyn＠stonehenge.com 02 Nov '07

02 Nov '07

I see that there's a start towards a bit of YUI integration, but I'd like to avoid prototype.js if I can at all possible in some upcoming work, because I'm pretty sure YUI has better legs and more tools already than scriptalicious will ever have. Has anyone gone further, thinking about the integration requirements or hopefully even having done some of the work? If not, how about at least working with me on a project to start this work? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!

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2.8 on Dolphin Smalltalk
by Esteban A. Maringolo 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Hello, I'm making good progress in the Dolphin Smalltalk port of Seaside 2.8. I'll release a testable version soon. You can follow its progress here: http://dolphinseaside.blogspot.com Regards, -- Esteban A. Maringolo eMaringolo(a)gmail.com

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Re: YUI
by Stephan Eggermont 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

>From reading the blog entries on prototype, it looks like the problem is that it exposes badly written code. Composable javascript should work within those prototype walls. Stephan

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