in Seaside 3.0.8 on squeak 4.4. The previous version I used on Seaside 3.0.6 on 4.3 had a browser that would properly format code text. Ofter I copy code from some tutorial, and the code shows up with extra lines interspersed. A simple use of the format code feature fixes the code appropriately. In the new version of the browser, the format options does nothing. Just blinks the screen.
THanks
Hi,
I think code can only be formatted if it is syntactically correct, i.e. is parseable.
Sven
On 25 May 2013, at 02:17, intrader intrader@aol.com wrote:
in Seaside 3.0.8 on squeak 4.4. The previous version I used on Seaside 3.0.6 on 4.3 had a browser that would properly format code text. Ofter I copy code from some tutorial, and the code shows up with extra lines interspersed. A simple use of the format code feature fixes the code appropriately. In the new version of the browser, the format options does nothing. Just blinks the screen.
THanks
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Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven <at> stfx.eu> writes:
Hi,
I think code can only be formatted if it is syntactically correct, i.e. is
parseable.
Sven
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Thanks, and I think that makes sense, however it happens with something as simple as <code> newTask
self task: MyStTask new </code> Now if I accept, and then fomr the 'View' I select 'pretty print', the code look like it should <code> newTask self task: MyStTask new </code>
Sorry, still looking for my previous version Seaside 3.0.6 with Squeak 4.3 where the format worked fine. Further in that version the System Browser had a searh element where I could searh for methods. In this Seaside 3.0.7 with Squeak 4.4 I have to search in a very convoluted way *using the search tool in the flaps'
On May 25, 2013, at 3:58 PM, intrader intrader@aol.com wrote:
Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven <at> stfx.eu> writes:
Hi,
I think code can only be formatted if it is syntactically correct, i.e. is
parseable.
Sven
Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org
Thanks, and I think that makes sense, however it happens with something as simple as
<code> newTask
self task: MyStTask new
</code> Now if I accept, and then fomr the 'View' I select 'pretty print', the code look like it should <code> newTask self task: MyStTask new </code>
Sorry, still looking for my previous version Seaside 3.0.6 with Squeak 4.3 where the format worked fine. Further in that version the System Browser had a searh element where I could searh for methods. In this Seaside 3.0.7 with Squeak 4.4 I have to search in a very convoluted way *using the search tool in the flaps'
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On Sat, 25 May 2013, intrader wrote:
Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven <at> stfx.eu> writes:
Hi,
I think code can only be formatted if it is syntactically correct, i.e. is
parseable.
Sven
Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org
Thanks, and I think that makes sense, however it happens with something as simple as
<code> newTask
self task: MyStTask new
</code> Now if I accept, and then fomr the 'View' I select 'pretty print', the code look like it should <code> newTask self task: MyStTask new </code>
Sorry, still looking for my previous version Seaside 3.0.6 with Squeak 4.3 where the format worked fine. Further in that version the System Browser had a searh element where I could searh for methods. In this Seaside 3.0.7 with Squeak 4.4 I have to search in a very convoluted way *using the search tool in the flaps'
If you press Ctrl+0, then the search bar on the top right corner will get focus (or you can use your mouse if you want). There you can type the name of the method or class you're looking for.
Levente
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Levente Uzonyi <leves <at> elte.hu> writes:
If you press Ctrl+0, then the search bar on the top right corner will get focus (or you can use your mouse if you want). There you can type the name of the method or class you're looking for.
Levente
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Lvente: Thanks, but unfortunately when I type Ctrl+0 nothing happens. With Ctrl+o I get the error message 'Undefined object (Object)>>does not undersstand #spawn
On Sat, 25 May 2013, intrader wrote:
in Seaside 3.0.8 on squeak 4.4. The previous version I used on Seaside 3.0.6 on 4.3 had a browser that would properly format code text. Ofter I copy code from some tutorial, and the code shows up with extra lines interspersed. A simple use of the format code feature fixes the code appropriately. In the new version of the browser, the format options does nothing. Just blinks the screen.
Can you please tell us how did you install Seaside? What's the value of
SystemBrowser default
in your Squeak 4.3 and Squeak 4.4 images?
Levente
THanks
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Levente Uzonyi <leves <at> elte.hu> writes:
SystemBrowser default
in your Squeak 4.3 and Squeak 4.4 images?
Levente
THanks
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I installled from
ftp://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/seaside/
The SystemBrowser detaul print gives me
OBSystemBrowserAdaptor
Sorry, but it looks differenct from the previous version, the previous version had a input element on top where I could type a search for a method.
Thanks
Am 26.05.2013 um 17:03 schrieb intrader intrader@aol.com:
Levente Uzonyi <leves <at> elte.hu> writes:
SystemBrowser default
in your Squeak 4.3 and Squeak 4.4 images?
Levente
THanks
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I installled from
ftp://ftp.squeak.org/4.4/seaside/
To any Seasiders, Squeakers, Sorry, I have not yet announced that current Seaside on Squeak resides there.
Best -Tobias
Am 26.05.2013 um 18:39 schrieb intrader intrader@aol.com:
Levente Uzonyi <leves <at> elte.hu> writes:
What's the value of
SystemBrowser default
in your Squeak 4.3 and Squeak 4.4 images?
It is OBSystemBrowserAdaptor in both
OmniBrowser changed between the seaside 3.0.6 and the seaside 3.0.8 installation. I was of the impression that the OB used by 3.0.8 would be more stable than the older one, at least it has seen more care by Colin….
Anyway, when you click on the blue triangle in the upper right in the system browser, you can select "choose new default browser" where you can select "Browser", which will give you the default Squeak System Browser. Be aware that the nice icons will then no longer be used, but "pretty print" should work, at least.
Best -Tobias
Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes:
Am 26.05.2013 um 18:39 schrieb intrader <intrader <at> aol.com>:
Levente Uzonyi <leves <at> elte.hu> writes:
What's the value of
SystemBrowser default
in your Squeak 4.3 and Squeak 4.4 images?
It is OBSystemBrowserAdaptor in both
OmniBrowser changed between the seaside 3.0.6 and the seaside 3.0.8 installation. I was of the impression that the OB used by 3.0.8 would be more stable than the older one, at least it has seen more care by Colin….
Anyway, when you click on the blue triangle in the upper right in the system browser, you can select "choose new default browser" where you can select "Browser", which will give you the default Squeak System Browser. Be aware that the nice icons will then no longer be used, but "pretty print" should work, at least.
Best -Tobias
Thanks Tobias, indeed I can choose 'Browser' and a browser change occurs. However, the browser chosen is not the browser that I had operating on 3.0.6: 1. the format menu does not appear, I must click on 'more...' then on 'pretty print' (which does the job), 2. the method search bar does not appear.
I wonder which browser is available as default on 3.0.6 with Squeak 4.3.
I have further problems with the 3.0.8's version of Magritte. I am following the Hasso Plattner Institut Seaside Tutorial's Monticello version 2 (including Magritte) of the ToDo Application (accessible from tutorial at http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/seaside/files/StLibrary/STTutTodoAp....
It works perfectly on 3.0.6 and Squeak 4.3. Unfortunately, it fails on 3.0.8 and Squeak 4.4 with error 'StTask(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #description'; I am investigating why the problem as the source of the ToDo Application is the same (as given above),
What I know changed is Magritte.
intrader <intrader <at> aol.com> writes:
... What I know changed is Magritte.
Indeed, on 3.0.6 and Squeak 4.3, Monticello shows that Magritte2 is running. On 3.0.8 and Squeak 4.4, Monticello shows Magritte3.
I am continuing to investigate, as probably I need to migrate the application to Magritte3.
What a bummer; a major tutorial broken by Magritte3.
Am 27.05.2013 um 19:23 schrieb intrader intrader@aol.com:
intrader <intrader <at> aol.com> writes:
... What I know changed is Magritte.
Indeed, on 3.0.6 and Squeak 4.3, Monticello shows that Magritte2 is running. On 3.0.8 and Squeak 4.4, Monticello shows Magritte3.
I am continuing to investigate, as probably I need to migrate the application to Magritte3.
What a bummer; a major tutorial broken by Magritte3.
I think a quick-fix for you to continue:
1) Create the description methods on the _instance_ side and not on the _class_ side (eg, StTask>>#descriptionCompleted instead of StTask class>>#descriptionCompleted) 2) Add a <magritteDescription> method property (aka pragma) like this:
descriptionCompleted <magritteDescription> ^ MABooleanDescription new selectorAccessor: #completed; label: 'Completed?'; priority: 30; default: false; yourself
3) replace the send to #description in "Dynamic Descriptions" and "Create a Report" with a send to #magritteDescription
Hope that helps
Best -Tobias
Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes:
...
The changes to the Magritte ocde indeed work with an additional tweak in the StLoggedInComponent>>initializeReort to reference StTask new descriptionCompleted instead of StTask descriptionCompleted.
The StTutDodoApp is now running on Magritte 3.
Am 27.05.2013 um 18:20 schrieb intrader intrader@aol.com:
Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes:
Am 26.05.2013 um 18:39 schrieb intrader <intrader <at> aol.com>:
Levente Uzonyi <leves <at> elte.hu> writes:
It is OBSystemBrowserAdaptor in both
OmniBrowser changed between the seaside 3.0.6 and the seaside 3.0.8 installation. I was of the impression that the OB used by 3.0.8 would be more stable than the older one, at least it has seen more care by Colin….
Anyway, when you click on the blue triangle in the upper right in the system browser, you can select "choose new default browser" where you can select "Browser", which will give you the default Squeak System Browser. Be aware that the nice icons will then no longer be used, but "pretty print" should work, at least.
Best -Tobias
Thanks Tobias, indeed I can choose 'Browser' and a browser change occurs. However, the browser chosen is not the browser that I had operating on 3.0.6:
- the format menu does not appear, I must click on 'more...' then on
'pretty print' (which does the job), 2. the method search bar does not appear.
This is expected.
I wonder which browser is available as default on 3.0.6 with Squeak 4.3.
The Default browser for the 3.0.6/4.3 combo is the same as the browser for the 3.0.8/4.4 combo, ie. OmniBrowser, but in a different version.
Please send a mail to the squeak-dev[1] or newbies[2] mailinglists, so that we do not forget the bug you mentioned (ie, non-working Pretty-print in OB)
I have further problems with the 3.0.8's version of Magritte. I am following the Hasso Plattner Institut Seaside Tutorial's Monticello version 2 (including Magritte) of the ToDo Application (accessible from tutorial at http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/seaside/files/StLibrary/STTutTodoAp....
It works perfectly on 3.0.6 and Squeak 4.3. Unfortunately, it fails on 3.0.8 and Squeak 4.4 with error 'StTask(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #description'; I am investigating why the problem as the source of the ToDo Application is the same (as given above),
What I know changed is Magritte.
Yes. The tutorial assumes Magritte 2, as the installation description states. We have not had time yet to make the necessary changes for Magritte 3.
Best -Tobias
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Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes:
Am 27.05.2013 um 18:20 schrieb intrader <intrader <at> aol.com>:
Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes:
Am 26.05.2013 um 18:39 schrieb intrader <intrader <at> aol.com>:
Levente Uzonyi <leves <at> elte.hu> writes:
It is OBSystemBrowserAdaptor in both
OmniBrowser changed between the seaside 3.0.6 and the seaside 3.0.8 installation. ...
Three browsers are offered:
Package Browser Browser OmniBroser
None of browsers offer the method search top at the top of the browser window.
The 'refactor method' is not around (I had this in the browser offered by 3.0.6 Squeak 4.3. I would like to use 'refactor method' to move description methods to the instance side. In factor they don't offer the option to 'refactor class' and create accessors!
This is quite terrible and I will try to report these deficiencies but they should have been caught in testing.
Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes:
...
...
and Squeak 4.4 with error 'StTask(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #description'; I am investigating why the problem as the source of the ToDo Application is the same (as given above),
What I know changed is Magritte.
Yes. The tutorial assumes Magritte 2, as the installation description states. We have not had time yet to make the necessary changes for Magritte 3.
Best -Tobias
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I will try these changes and let you know . However immediately I run into the deficiency in refactoring of any of the pbrowsers offered:
Package Browser Browser OmniBrowser
intrader <intrader <at> aol.com> writes:
Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes: ...
Additional changes required is to change the references to StTask descriptionCompleted to...
I don't yet know which task to use!
intrader <intrader <at> aol.com> writes:
intrader <intrader <at> aol.com> writes:
Tobias Pape <Das.Linux <at> gmx.de> writes: ...
Additional changes required is to change the references to StTask descriptionCompleted to...
I don't yet know which task to use!
StTask new descriptionCompleted is probably wrong as it gives me an empty task with defaults
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