squeakland December 2004

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Squeak, Education and RPG (Role Playing Game)
by Samir Saidani 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Hi, Very interesting project José, we thought about a similar idea in the educative squeak workgroup in France, and are interested to participate in this project. In fact, the project we have is to design an educative framework to build a role playing game in Squeak. More precisely, there would be several levels in this framework, and the first one meets the idea of a "story teller" : using a bookmorph, EToys and character-specific widget. A second level would use MorphingWrappers to interact easily with the scene, like taking or dropping objects. A third level would propose a classes framework giving an easy way for youngs to build an entire RPG, by including music, sounds, images and online playing (between several Squeak images). This is a rather ambitious project, but we have successfully tested this kind of projets in classrooms (in Squeak - 18-19 years old) and holiday camps (QBasic and LOGO - 9-10 years old). So maybe could we join our forces to build such a framework ? And we are looking for some codes to start this framework, I took a look on Sims from Brian Rice and CastleMicroSloth from Adam Shackleford (in VW), does somebody know others RPG in smalltalk ? Regards, Samir >José "L. Redrejo" Rodríguez <jredrejo(a)edu.juntaextremadura.net> > Maybe we could work together. I have begun a project in Spain, with > three teachers else, trying to make a "story teller" inside of Squeak. > The target is foreign language teaching. The idea is based on how much > teenagers like to tell story and use their imagination. Working together > with some english teacher we thought of making a tool with these parts: > - First part: The teacher choose a famous english tale or book (in our > case, english is the foreign language) . For example, Robinson Crusoe, > and extract some gramatical structures and vocabulary. He shows the > vocabulary to the children using intelligence bits , and give the > structures to the students. > - Second part: the students make an animated tale with those structures > and vocabulary, but telling the story in their own way. > > My idea is: prepare a "special" squeak image with the intelligence bits > tool, a character generator and an "easy to use" story generator > (similar to http://www.dollysoft.com/, but only using an etoy interface, > not writing the script). This last part is obviously very similar to > the one you want to do. But I have imposed myself one limitation: > generated stories must be a squeak project totally squeakland > compatible. So, I want to prepare those "agents" and an etoys interface > to use them, but, once the project is ended, it will be published in our > swiki server and should be able to run into a web browser with the > squeakland plugin. > The project has to be ended before November 2005. I have got some > economical funds from the educational authorities, and that is my > deadline to give our work. I would like to know your opinion about the > idea, and if you think we could collaborate some way. This explanation > has been quite rude, the whole project is detailed in 4 o 5 pages. If > you want more details, please ask me. > Regards. >

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spiral
by Randy Heiland 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

How might one create a script to draw a spiral? I mistakenly thought that if I did something like: Fwd by 5 Turn by <obj> headingTheta + 2 penDown that I might accomplish it. However, it seems that the headingTheta is not dynamically updated in this script, i.e. the heading never changes. Thanks, Randy

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RE: [Squeakland] Japan may be "far away" but you never know!
by Mankovsky, Sheine 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Will Seymour's talk be webcast? Publication on the web after? Do you know what is being considered? Regrettably I can't consider physically attending. Best, Sheine -----Original Message----- From: squeakland-bounces(a)squeakland.org [mailto:squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org]On Behalf Of Kim Rose Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:27 PM To: squeakland.org mailing list Subject: [Squeakland] Japan may be "far away" but you never know! Greetings, Squeaklanders - I want to let you know about an upcoming Conference in Kyoto, Japan which may be of interest. Although "C5" (The Third International Conference on Creating, Connecting and Collaborating through Computing) may be fairly technical, and not necessarily geared to a K-12 learning community, on January 30th there will be a special morning including a keynote lecture by Seymour Papert which I am sure would be of interest. Here are the details on that: http://www.edu.soc.i.kyoto-u.ac.jp/c4-05/index_e.html And here is the "Call for Participation" for the Conference held Jan 28 and 29th, at Kyoto University: http://www.edu.soc.i.kyoto-u.ac.jp/c5-05/C5_2005_CFA.txt and the official conference site: http://www.edu.soc.i.kyoto-u.ac.jp/c5-05/ Please pass to any family, friends, colleagues you think may be interested. Perhaps we'll have the opportunity to meet in Kyoto! cheers, Kim _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list Squeakland(a)squeakland.org http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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[Squeakland] 2 questions - embedding text box and keystroke listener
by Arvind S. Grover 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

I have tried posting these in the forum, but it seems that no one is really looking there, so I am going to post them here: 1) i am trying to embed a text box into a painted object so that it looks and acts like one object. basically i want to be able to pick up and move the item as one, but still be able to script the textbox's behavior. i am have tried the embed action, but it only says i can embed into "world." any ideas? 2) What is the best way to "listen" for keystrokes? Example: the user hits the left arrow key and the object moves to the left.

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FW: [Squeakland] cannot publish a file anymore
by Arvind S. Grover 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Since Michael has been able to correct the attachments issue, I am resending my log attachment. Any help would be appreciated. arvind -----Original Message----- From: squeakland-bounces(a)squeakland.org [mailto:squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org] On Behalf Of Arvind S. Grover Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 11:25 AM To: squeakland(a)squeakland.org Subject: [Squeakland] cannot publish a file anymore First of all, thanks to all who helped out with my previous two questions. I am excited to hear about the state of keyboard listening. I think it could provide for powerful chances for students. They are eager to move beyond using items like rotating an object with its clumsy handle (clumsy only when using it for designing something like a game where quick turns are important). I have a student who has a 1 megabyte file, and each time she tried to publish, it hangs while publishing. I have attached the log. I have tried on different computers with no luck. Any ideas? Thanks again, arvind

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Japan may be "far away" but you never know!
by Kim Rose 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Greetings, Squeaklanders - I want to let you know about an upcoming Conference in Kyoto, Japan which may be of interest. Although "C5" (The Third International Conference on Creating, Connecting and Collaborating through Computing) may be fairly technical, and not necessarily geared to a K-12 learning community, on January 30th there will be a special morning including a keynote lecture by Seymour Papert which I am sure would be of interest. Here are the details on that: http://www.edu.soc.i.kyoto-u.ac.jp/c4-05/index_e.html And here is the "Call for Participation" for the Conference held Jan 28 and 29th, at Kyoto University: http://www.edu.soc.i.kyoto-u.ac.jp/c5-05/C5_2005_CFA.txt and the official conference site: http://www.edu.soc.i.kyoto-u.ac.jp/c5-05/ Please pass to any family, friends, colleagues you think may be interested. Perhaps we'll have the opportunity to meet in Kyoto! cheers, Kim

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Re: [Squeakland] cannot publish a file anymore
by Alan Kay 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Hi Arvind -- Squeak has an interface to multiple external joystick ports (which could be made available in Etoys). This would be a lot better than trying to drive things around with keys. Mike Rueger is the source here. Cheers, Alan At 08:24 AM 12/13/2004, Arvind S. Grover wrote: >First of all, thanks to all who helped out with my previous two >questions. I am excited to hear about the state of keyboard listening. I >think it could provide for powerful chances for students. They are eager >to move beyond using items like rotating an object with its clumsy >handle (clumsy only when using it for designing something like a game >where quick turns are important). > >I have a student who has a 1 megabyte file, and each time she tried to >publish, it hangs while publishing. I have attached the log. I have >tried on different computers with no luck. > >Any ideas? Thanks again, > >arvind > >_______________________________________________ >Squeakland mailing list >Squeakland(a)squeakland.org >http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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Sending attachments
by Michael Rueger 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

Dear Squeaklanders, we finally fixed the problem with sending attachments. It turned out to be an overly aggressive attachment content type filter. We turned off the filtering but still have the following safe guards/limitations in place: - every message is placed in moderation mode, you probably have noticed the delays when sending a message. The reason we are manually checking every message is that virus mails have in the past used members ' mail addresses. - attachments are limited to 200 KB size. Some of the members of this mailing list are on dial up lines and the size limit is a safe guard against sending megabytes as attachments. I can still approve larger attachments in moderation mode though. Apologies for the confusion the attachment problem caused! Yet another side effect of having to fight of virus mails and other annoyances of today's internet. Michael

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cannot publish a file anymore
by Arvind S. Grover 13 Dec '04

13 Dec '04

First of all, thanks to all who helped out with my previous two questions. I am excited to hear about the state of keyboard listening. I think it could provide for powerful chances for students. They are eager to move beyond using items like rotating an object with its clumsy handle (clumsy only when using it for designing something like a game where quick turns are important). I have a student who has a 1 megabyte file, and each time she tried to publish, it hangs while publishing. I have attached the log. I have tried on different computers with no luck. Any ideas? Thanks again, arvind

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[ANN] Etoy and squeak presentation at Geneva
by stéphane ducasse 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Hi all It occurred to me that this meeting has not advertise: There will be a squeak and etoy day presentation/discussion at Geneva the 16 th of December 2004. http://p7app.geneve.ch:8090/squeak/40 I hope that we will have a lot of fun. Stef

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