squeakland April 2006

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I want to introduce squeakland to my Chinese friends
by Xinyu Liu 12 May '06

12 May '06

Hi, I am a programmer come from China. From a friend I got to know about squeakland. I think it is really a great thing. It can help kids in all ages learn something while playing. However, when I search squeakland materials in Chinese by Google, I found that there is little Chinese information about it, nor a Chinese community. So, I decide to translate some basic background of squeakland to Chinese language. I just tried a couple of pages in www.squeakland.org. But I used some images, pictures, and links from www.squeakland.org. Is it OK? Can you give me a permission that I can use them? I just want to continue this work, to try my personnal best to introduce squeak to China, to let more and more chinese people know about it. the translated Chinese pages are here: http://liuxinyu95.googlepages.com/squeakland main page http://liuxinyu95.googlepages.com/squeakland.kids.home kids play page http://liuxinyu95.googlepages.com/squeakland.plugin.download download page http://liuxinyu95.googlepages.com/squeakland.school.home school staff page http://liuxinyu95.googlepages.com/squeakland.community.home community page http://liuxinyu95.googlepages.com/squeak squeak introduce page Best regards. Yours, Liu

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question for KEDAMA traduction term
by Hilaire Fernandes 27 Apr '06

27 Apr '06

Hello all, I am translating KEDAMA in French. I have a few questions regarding some words I am not sure about their meaning. It would be helpful if some of you could give some synonym regarding the following words and expressions used in KEDAMA: - patch - sniffRange - upHill -- ADD R0,R1,R2,LSL #2

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transferring projects
by Peace Jerome 27 Apr '06

27 Apr '06

>Bob Irving irvingb at e-lcds.org >Tue Apr 25 07:14:43 PDT 2006 Writes: >What's the best way to transfer projects from >computer to computer? A: Which ever way works. This sounds like an easy-once-you-know-the-trick problem. Things to try: Lo-tech Sneaker net. Store the project on a floppy or usb flash drive. Remove. Walk on sneakers to destination machine. Insert. Copy from floppy or usb flash drive. Higher tech Use a shared folder between the two machines. Shared folder can be on either or both machines or somewhere else accessible to both machines. Many projects are published to the superswiki and then available to all from there. Let us know if any of this help works. Yours in service, --Jerome Peace P.S. I liked the email method you mentioned. The problem was that the project files are binary files probably being handled (and munged) as text. Sending them as attachments might work better. There is also uuencode and decode (a way to make binary into text and then back into binary.) I suspect in this day and age that the earlier solutions I mentioned will be easier than this. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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SqueakFest '06 proposals, etc.
by Wade Roberts 27 Apr '06

27 Apr '06

Greetings, all, We may have had some server issues that might have affected the successful submission of on-line proposals for the conference. We apologize for the inconvenience, but we would like to ask that everyone who has submitted a proposal to confirm/respond to this e-mail so that we may cross-check and verify that we have successfully received all proposals for presentations, panels, and workshops. If you have not yet made a submission, the deadline is April 30. The on-line submission form and other details can be found at: http://interactive.colum.edu/partners/squeakfest/ There are a limited number of travel stipends available to presenters. Early requests are more likely to be funded. On-line registration will be available in early May at the same address. Look for another announcement when registration goes live. The July 20 keynote address will be by Seymour Papert. Please share the URL with interested colleagues and friends. Cheers, Wade

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Squeak Etoys and preschoolers
by Leonel Morgado 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

Hi, I'm interested on computer programming experiences with children aged 3, 4 and 5. I was unable to find documented cases of Etoys use in this age group, but expect that there should be at least a few user stories. If anyone has reports, photos, or even just recollections of such cases, I would love to hear about them! Inté, Leonel Morgado

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Re: [Squeakland] Looking for good souls
by Markus Gaelli 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:16 AM, francois schnell wrote: >> On 23/04/06, Markus Gaelli <gaelli(a)emergent.de> wrote: >> >> >> I also think it is important not to end up with a plethora of lists, >> so my suggestion is to reuse squeakland for also posing and answering >> basic smalltalk questions. >> - Kim, would it be ok to ask smalltalk questions on squeakland? >> I think one factor of the success of the french squeak list, is that >> it focuses on education, be it with etoys or smalltalk. > > I actually think it would be a bad idea to mix using etoys > questions with finding your way in the class browser (not the same > thing, not the same targeted audience). > > Concerning the french Squeak-list, which is a good list, if you > look closely you won't see a lot people actually *learning* > smalltalk : giving example of problem they have with their code, > asking for help, etc. > > For the moment the Squeak lists reflect its community state. > Apart from Squeakland (for etoys), Squeak is orientated research/ > hackers which is OK but I believe it *needs" students/teachers/ > people *learning* Squeak to produce useful tools-apps (not mainly > research ones) > Exactly. With you, Hillaire, Stef, Serge and others we have these educational but still technical people in the french list - as there are some willing and helpful old time squeakers like Scott, Bert, Yoshiki and others in squeakland. So I actually don't understand why we should not strive to get all this people together who are interested in Squeak as a learning platform, be it for smalltalk, etoys and the rest of the universe - as long as there is some interest to keep squeakland of course. I don't think we are enough to allow us to split into more and more subgroups, think about the currently quite quiet lists of tweak and croquet. Instead we better join forces in some "squeak and learning" list, and isn't that what squeakland is all about? Please reply to squeakland also, there is not too much traffic on it either... Or maybe neither you nor Stef are registered there, which I'd find a bit strange ;-) Cheers, Markus

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Ubuntu Dapper bug
by Charlie Moad 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

I installed squeakland from the deb repos and I am getting a strange bug when running squeakland stand-alone. It works in the browser fine. When I run squeakland the window continuously gets smaller in the horizontal direction. Once it reaches a zero width, it dies with this error: cmoad@euclid:~/xvidcap-1.1.3-p7$ squeakland X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 12 (X_ConfigureWindow) Value in failed request: 0x0 Serial number of failed request: 5166 Current serial number in output stream: 5180 For your entertainment and to better explain I have a video capture: http://euclid.uits.iupui.edu/~cmoad/etoys-dapper.avi Thanks, Charlie

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transferring projects
by Bob Irving 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

What's the best way to transfer projects from computer to computer? I'm having students email them and then put them in the MySqueak/User folder (in XP), but it's not working. Thanks in advance, Bob Irving Middle School Technology Facilitator Lancaster Country Day School Lancaster, PA Blog: www.e-lcds.org/wordpress/ "Change is not death; fear of change is death."

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Re: [Squeakland] I want to introduce squeakland to my Chinese friends
by Xinyu Liu 24 Apr '06

24 Apr '06

Dear Rose, Ohshima, Luna, Thank you! thanks for the greate community supporting. I'll try my best to continue this work. I believe with squeak spreading in China, there will be more and more Chinese people join us. A team can do much more than an individual, so we hava a greate tomorrow! To Rose, Thank you and Viewpoint Research! I'll try to make the Chinese translating pages consist with the original sources, both contents and style. I watched some clips of "Squeaders" documentary film from www.squeakland.org. It's very wonderful. However, I doesn't find the DVD sold in China store. I'll ask my friends to help me seeking it in Japan, our neighbourhood country. To Ohsima, I read your HP both in squeak pages and in T.I.Tech. You did not only port Squeak to many PDAs, but also help to develop the multilingualized Squeak. I happen to spend 2 years in T.I.Tech and know Janpanese language. So, I am very interesting in building a Chinese version Squeak. I believe I can learn a lot from you. Best regards. Yours, Liu

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Re: [Squeakland] Looking for good souls
by Markus Gaelli 23 Apr '06

23 Apr '06

On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:41 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > I actually still think the "one-list-for-all" is best, because even > if you don't understand half of what is discussed, you at least get > to know that more advanced topics exist. > > However, I can see how a newbie might be afraid of posting some > basic question to squeak-dev. So to get new folks to participate, > I'd make it explicit in the list name that it really is okay to ask > even the dumbest questions. How about > > "squeak-newbies" > > Can't get much more inviting than that, can it? I also think it is important not to end up with a plethora of lists, so my suggestion is to reuse squeakland for also posing and answering basic smalltalk questions. - Kim, would it be ok to ask smalltalk questions on squeakland? I think one factor of the success of the french squeak list, is that it focuses on education, be it with etoys or smalltalk. Cheers, Markus > > - Bert - > > Am 22.04.2006 um 20:49 schrieb Hans N Beck: > >> Hi, >> >> why not simply squeak-help ? >> >> Regards >> >> Hans >> >> Am 22.04.2006 um 18:58 schrieb stéphane ducasse: >> >>> sounds cool. >>>> In keeping with zen and the importance of approaching the world >>>> with "beginner's mind", I like squeak-beginners. >>> >>> >> >> > > >

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