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Re: [squeakland] [Q] How to delay an execution of a command tile in a script
by p.a.dreyfuss＠excite.com 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hi Karl, Thanks for the help, The attached project is an empty project, just with a new tile in the sound category, playSoundUntilDone. If there are many ticking scripts, each sound is played at turn. Accept saving changes when saving you project if asked for.(depending choices for saving). Start with this project and rename it before saving, if you are using the new tile. Regards -----Original Message----- From: "Karl Ramberg" [karlramberg(a)gmail.com] Date: 11/18/2009 12:00 PM To: "p.a.dreyfuss(a)excite.com" <p.a.dreyfuss(a)excite.com> CC: squeakland(a)squeakland.org Subject: Re: [squeakland] [Q] How to delay an execution of a command tile in a script On 2009-11-18 16:01, p.a.dreyfuss(a)excite.com wrote: Hi, Very nice this project, all done in a morph that could be given to kids as a tool. it should be published on showcase. I have replaced the first demo by a solution for repeating sounds, it is not pure Etoys, it uses a script written in smalltalk for getting the length of the sound which is put in a variable. The rest uses what is done for delay. The timing is changed to ten ticks by second and the length is in tenth of second. The script delay, is called at the end of the script executeAction,initiating new cycle of delay and making executeAction recursive.The sound will repeat infinitely, each time the delay expires. To stop it, just pause the delay script. To start, just execute executeAction . I'm working at a different way, adding a duration tile to sound category but this wants more thinking. Sorry for the strange name of the project, it is due to Sugar, It was 'delayWithSound.' :-) Regards Have you looked at the SoundPlayer>>waitUntilDonePlaying: method. Maybe that could be added to Player so repeated sounds would wait until the previous sample is done. Karl -----Original Message----- From: "Ricardo Moran" [richi.moran(a)gmail.com] Date: 11/17/2009 08:49 PM To: "Young-Jin Lee" <youngjin.michael(a)gmail.com> CC: squeakland(a)squeakland.org Subject: Re: [squeakland] [Q] How to delay an execution of a command tile in a script Ive made this simple project with a "delay object". You can duplicate it and change the execute action script to perform anything you want. Then you simply run the "startDelay:" script with the duration as a parameter.I hope you find it useful. I dont know if there is an easier way, though. Cheers On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Young-Jin Lee <youngjin.michael(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello, I am looking for a way to delay a certain action for a certain period of time. For instance, I have a book and want to flip the page when the mouse cursor is touch another Sketch. But, I want to delay the page flipping for a certain period of time instead of doing it right away because I want, for instance, to show a Text widget after the mouse cursor touched another Sketch, but before flipping the book page. Without delaying the flipping of a book page, I cannot even read the text in the Text Widget. Related to this, I am wondering if I can play a short sound clip repeated in a script that is being executed repeatedly. I want to play a certain sound repeated while a sketch is roaming around the World. If I put the "play sound" tile in the script that will make the Sketch roam the World, I got echoes because the "play sound" is invoked before the previous execution of the previous call to "play sound" ends as I invoke this roaming script repeatedly (by clicking on its clock icon on the scriptor). Is there a way to resolve these problems? Thanks in advance. Young-Jin Lee _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list squeakland(a)squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland Earn a Degree in Dental Assisting. Find Schools and Apply today! Dental Assistant Degree AllAlliedHealthSchools.com _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list squeakland@squeakland.orghttp://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland ------------------------------------------------------------ Earn your MBA from Regis University, 100% online. Free info packs! Regis University MBA http://tagline.excite.com/c?cp=JCCA-z5scs2tMuSMXKTZUwAAKZT0djZnOxTFQCGmncBv…

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[Q] How to delay an execution of a command tile in a script
by Young-Jin Lee 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Hello, I am looking for a way to delay a certain action for a certain period of time. For instance, I have a book and want to flip the page when the mouse cursor is touch another Sketch. But, I want to delay the page flipping for a certain period of time instead of doing it right away because I want, for instance, to show a Text widget after the mouse cursor touched another Sketch, but before flipping the book page. Without delaying the flipping of a book page, I cannot even read the text in the Text Widget. Related to this, I am wondering if I can play a short sound clip repeated in a script that is being executed repeatedly. I want to play a certain sound repeated while a sketch is roaming around the World. If I put the "play sound" tile in the script that will make the Sketch roam the World, I got echoes because the "play sound" is invoked before the previous execution of the previous call to "play sound" ends as I invoke this roaming script repeatedly (by clicking on its clock icon on the scriptor). Is there a way to resolve these problems? Thanks in advance. Young-Jin Lee

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Re: [squeakland] [Q] How to delay an execution of a command tile in a script
by p.a.dreyfuss＠excite.com 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

Hi, Very nice this project, all done in a morph that could be given to kids as a tool. it should be published on showcase. I have replaced the first demo by a solution for repeating sounds, it is not pure Etoys, it uses a script written in smalltalk for getting the length of the sound which is put in a variable. The rest uses what is done for delay. The timing is changed to ten ticks by second and the length is in tenth of second. The script delay, is called at the end of the script executeAction,initiating new cycle of delay and making executeAction recursive.The sound will repeat infinitely, each time the delay expires. To stop it, just pause the delay script. To start, just execute executeAction . I'm working at a different way, adding a duration tile to sound category but this wants more thinking. Sorry for the strange name of the project, it is due to Sugar, It was 'delayWithSound.' :-) Regards -----Original Message----- From: "Ricardo Moran" [richi.moran(a)gmail.com] Date: 11/17/2009 08:49 PM To: "Young-Jin Lee" <youngjin.michael(a)gmail.com> CC: squeakland(a)squeakland.org Subject: Re: [squeakland] [Q] How to delay an execution of a command tile in a script Ive made this simple project with a "delay object". You can duplicate it and change the execute action script to perform anything you want. Then you simply run the "startDelay:" script with the duration as a parameter.I hope you find it useful. I dont know if there is an easier way, though. Cheers On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Young-Jin Lee <youngjin.michael(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hello, I am looking for a way to delay a certain action for a certain period of time. For instance, I have a book and want to flip the page when the mouse cursor is touch another Sketch. But, I want to delay the page flipping for a certain period of time instead of doing it right away because I want, for instance, to show a Text widget after the mouse cursor touched another Sketch, but before flipping the book page. Without delaying the flipping of a book page, I cannot even read the text in the Text Widget. Related to this, I am wondering if I can play a short sound clip repeated in a script that is being executed repeatedly. I want to play a certain sound repeated while a sketch is roaming around the World. If I put the "play sound" tile in the script that will make the Sketch roam the World, I got echoes because the "play sound" is invoked before the previous execution of the previous call to "play sound" ends as I invoke this roaming script repeatedly (by clicking on its clock icon on the scriptor). Is there a way to resolve these problems? Thanks in advance. Young-Jin Lee _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list squeakland(a)squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland ------------------------------------------------------------ Earn a Degree in Dental Assisting. Find Schools and Apply today! Dental Assistant Degree http://tagline.excite.com/c?cp=J3xPWQy-KvdBCiXpAf0X4AAAKZRsWBNfypAEDSkjl6-6…

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text conversation in etoys
by Bill Kerr 18 Nov '09

18 Nov '09

I'm trying to setup a text based dialogue b/w 2 objects I dragged out two Text objects from Supplies, named them first and second The best I can do is write a series of scripts for the Text objects, one script for each part of the conversation Then I made a clock with a time variable and setting the ticker to one per second Then write a controller script, using world Test: clock's time > 2 Yes: first do script1 Test: clock's time > 4 Yes: second do script1 Test: clock's time > 6 Yes: first do script 2 Also made a reset script, using world Is there a better way?

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Re: [squeakland] text conversation in etoys
by p.a.dreyfuss＠excite.com 17 Nov '09

17 Nov '09

Hi, I did about the same with 2 holders but Yoshiki's solution is easier. An other way, more general, is to put text parts as texts in an holder. Then you just have to put in the displaying texts a script setting the this text to the text under the older's curser, then increasing the cursor by 1 to get the next text in the cursor for next display. If you put text and holder on a playfield, just a copy of the playfield will give you a second pair of text and holder with the same scripts. An other use of the holder is to shuffle it and getting the first element to get a text randomly. Regards -----Original Message----- From: "Yoshiki Ohshima" [yoshiki(a)vpri.org] Date: 11/17/2009 04:01 PM To: "squeakland.org mailing list" <squeakland(a)squeakland.org> Subject: Re: [squeakland] text conversation in etoys Hi, Bill, > I'm trying to setup a text based dialogue b/w 2 objects > > I dragged out two Text objects from Supplies, named them first and second > > The best I can do is write a series of scripts for the Text objects, one script for each part of the conversation > > Then I made a clock with a time variable and setting the ticker to one per second > > Then write a controller script, using world > Test: clock's time > 2 > Yes: first do script1 > Test: clock's time > 4 > Yes: second do script1 > Test: clock's time > 6 > Yes: first do script 2 > > Also made a reset script, using world > > Is there a better way? Another way is to put each part of conversation in a Holder (as TextMorphs) and assign the phrase at the cursor to "first" and "second". See http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/Conversation.002.pr (and at the showcase once it appears) In this way, you don't have to edit the script at all when you want to modify the conversation. -- Yoshiki _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list squeakland(a)squeakland.org http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland ------------------------------------------------------------ Free info on Le Cordon Bleu chef certification degree courses near you Can you Cook as a Career? http://tagline.excite.com/c?cp=B-Z8CcGeCER3WxcvfinaugAAKZQoxq6zLg1z7wgv2o1i…

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point towards the mouse?
by Bill Kerr 15 Nov '09

15 Nov '09

1) Is it possible to get an arrow to point towards the mouse pointer in etoys? I can get it to point towards a box which is being moved with the mouse with this script: *arrow's heading <-- arrow's bearing to box* In the world menu in the playfield pane there are mouse x and mouse y detectors but arrow's bearing will not accept those detectors as input to replace just the box part 2) I also wanted to detect a mouse click but can't see any way to do that. The input pane in the world menu detects last keystroke but not a mouse click.

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Thanks for uploading emails not received since Oct 15
by mrsteve 15 Nov '09

15 Nov '09

teefal wrote: > Actually, every time you make a project public, you get an email that says: > > > "It may be a little while before your project appears, since we review each project for objectionable content to keep things safe for the children of the world. You will receive an email when your project has been approved for public view on the showcase." > > > Perhaps this email is not going through? Steve? Looked through my emails and I did receive emails on Oct 11 and Oct 15 with that message (sorry for the confusion, missed that part) But, I have not received any "Thank you for uploading" emails since Oct 15th and I have uploaded since then. Should I also receive that email when I revise a project? I understand the need to prevent objectionable content, as a comparison I checked how the Scratch team does it, they have to deal with the same problem. There it posted right away and I was able to see it without logging in. Found a good article talking about how they deal with objectionable content. http://journal.webscience.org/253/ (4. Children's Moral Evaluations). It seems you are dealing with competing goods: Wanting to prevent objectionable content and allowing folks to make there projects public as soon as they post them. Also scaling will become a serious problem once folks catch on to the power of Etoys. PS. Thanks to Bert for all the comments ;) -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12849#12849 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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Re: Made project public and it doesn't show up in the Showcase
by Bert 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

mrsteve wrote: > I made a project public last night and as of this morning it still does not show up in the showcase, except when I log in. This is a brand new (ie: from scratch, no pun intended, not remixed project, so it should have a unique UID) When I log in, I can see the project and it has the "Make Private: button, so the system thinks it is public :cry: > > I love Etoys (even with all my frustrations ;) and every time I consider Scratch and start using it I find out why I like Etoys so much better. > > Please HEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPP! > > (Project located here) > http://www.squeakland.org/showcase/project.jsp?id=7706 All projects are moderated manually. So even when marked public they are not really public yet (would be nice if the button had a third state like "publishing requested" to indicate this). I'm sure there is a page somewhere explaining the moderation process but I can't find it, sorry. - Bert - -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12694#12694 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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Re: Frustrated with Showcase
by teefal 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

Hi Steve, The instability is largely my fault, as I was working on bug fixes last week. Unpredictable things can happen when I restart the server to go live with changes. The thumbnail issue has hopefully been resolved with last weekend's changes. The remix problem is discussed here: http://tracker.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-569 and will be resolved when we deal with: http://tracker.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-558 Thank you so much for your patience. The showcase is still new and we're getting the kinks out thanks to the feedback from people like yourself. -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12703#12703 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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Re: stop script continues to execute current script
by Bert 12 Nov '09

12 Nov '09

mrsteve wrote: > Here is a simple example of the problem: I create a simple two line script, the first line stop's the script, the second hides the object. > Below is the textual version of the script. > script1 > self stopScript: #script1. > self hide1 > > The problem is even though the stop script is first the lines after the stop script still gets executed. > > Is this the way Stop (and Pause) are supposed to work? Yes - start and stop just affect the script's "ticking" status. Scripts always run to completion, they are not interrupted in the middle. -------------------- m2f -------------------- (from forum) http://squeakland.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=12692#12692 -------------------- m2f --------------------

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