RE: [Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas - squeakland

20 Aug 2003


      I understood that you were throwing something out for consideration.  Sheine
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-----Original Message-----
From:	John Voiklis [SMTP:voiklis@redfigure.org]
Sent:	Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:28 PM
To:	Andreas Raab; squeakland@squeakland.org
Subject:	RE: [Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas
The run yielded nothing; oh well.
I only brought the whole thing up because, from what I have heard of
Tweak,
it is a new way of doing things. I feel we need a new vocabulary to make
sure it is recognized as such; otherwise we may find that we spend most of
our time explaining how and why this differs from other object-oriented
and/or prototype languages.
Anyway, I am being too serious, all of the sudden. I simply wanted to
throw
an idea into the mix; in the same way that you, Andreas, have said that
the
syntax of a programming environment is part of its UI, I believe the words
we use to describe the environment inevitably shape the environment and
how
we work there.
Again, I need to lighten up. It's best I get back to the docs that I
promised to post.
--J
-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas Raab [mailto:andreas.raab@squeakland.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:41 PM
To: 'John Voiklis'; squeakland@squeakland.org
Subject: RE: [Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas
Hi John and all,
Thanks for all these ideas. I guess with the "pragma" idea then Tweak
should
be called the "Pragmatist" with the "idea" the "Idealist" (or are those
the
users of the system??? hm... ;-)
Well, I guess I'll wait until you're back from the seven mile run and see
what your feelings are then ;-)
Cheers,

Andreas

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-----Original Message-----
From: squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org
[mailto:squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org] On Behalf Of John Voiklis
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:16 PM
To: squeakland@squeakland.org
Subject: RE: [Squeakland] A somewhat silly suggestion for Andreas
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Why not call a Tweak object an "Idea"? This would be even
more Greek,
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and more appropriate.
I like it; I'll try a seven mile run and mull it over. In the
end though it isn't my call; still, whatever it is, I would
love to help in developing the theory and practice.
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Could we call it Idealistic Programming?
On the one hand, I like the half-kidding optimism, one the
other such a term has a progandistic tinge. Maybe one could
start with the spirit of Alan's term, Idea Processing, and
come up with a clever yet self-evidently appropriate turn of phrase.
Again, it is not up to me, but I look forward to the
intellectual work to come.
Best,
J

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