Hi folks, I am thinking of you all at Squeakfest this week and thought I'd try to install/play with the OLPC-Etoys that was advertised on the Squeakfest site. Downloading that .zip file and unzipping it, I followed the terse README and dragged 'etoys.image' onto 'Squeakland.app', but nothing happened, i.e. Etoys didn't pop up. Still being a somewhat newbie in OSX, could someone offer up some clues?
Previously, I had downloaded etoys from squeakland and that ran fine on my Mac.
Fwiw, I'm running OSX 10.4.10 and have:
~/dev/Education/OLPC$ ll total 89264 drwxr-xr-x 25 heiland heiland 850 Aug 3 12:42 ExampleEtoys/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 76288 Jan 21 2006 KedamaPlugin2.dll -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 24631486 Aug 3 12:33 OLPC- Etoys070726.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 340 Jul 26 11:12 README -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 1077760 Sep 23 2004 Squeak.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 211 Jul 26 11:36 Squeak.ini drwxr-xr-x 3 heiland heiland 102 Aug 3 12:42 Squeakland.app/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 19899484 Jul 26 11:37 etoys.image
~/dev/Education/OLPC/Squeakland.app/Contents/MacOS$ ll total 5136 -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 66 May 16 11:01 Squeak VM Opt.sig
thanks, Randy
Ok by using the unix command ll in a terminal session I assume you are a bit familiar with Unix. The issue here is the executable permission is not set on the Squeak VM Opt. It should look like
-rwxr-xr-x 1 johnmci staff 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt
Lacking the 'x' means it won't execute.
Given the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip and in the Finder if you control-click on it to get the command menu and pick 'Open with' it should say that 'BOMArchiveHelper.app' is the application used to open a ZIP file.
Double clicking on the ZIP file in the macintosh Finder should also run BOMArchiveHelper to unzip the file.
I suspect you used the unzip command line tool to unzip the zip file, in checking this way of unzipping the archive I found it does not restore the execute bit properly.
On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Randy Heiland wrote:
Hi folks, I am thinking of you all at Squeakfest this week and thought I'd try to install/play with the OLPC-Etoys that was advertised on the Squeakfest site. Downloading that .zip file and unzipping it, I followed the terse README and dragged 'etoys.image' onto 'Squeakland.app', but nothing happened, i.e. Etoys didn't pop up. Still being a somewhat newbie in OSX, could someone offer up some clues?
Previously, I had downloaded etoys from squeakland and that ran fine on my Mac.
Fwiw, I'm running OSX 10.4.10 and have:
~/dev/Education/OLPC$ ll total 89264 drwxr-xr-x 25 heiland heiland 850 Aug 3 12:42 ExampleEtoys/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 76288 Jan 21 2006 KedamaPlugin2.dll -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 24631486 Aug 3 12:33 OLPC- Etoys070726.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 340 Jul 26 11:12 README -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 1077760 Sep 23 2004 Squeak.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 211 Jul 26 11:36 Squeak.ini drwxr-xr-x 3 heiland heiland 102 Aug 3 12:42 Squeakland.app/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 19899484 Jul 26 11:37 etoys.image
~/dev/Education/OLPC/Squeakland.app/Contents/MacOS$ ll total 5136 -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 66 May 16 11:01 Squeak VM Opt.sig
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Is there an alternative to dragging the image onto the app to fire up etoys - preferably a command line equivalent?
-Randy
On Aug 6, 2007, at 5:51 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
Ok by using the unix command ll in a terminal session I assume you are a bit familiar with Unix. The issue here is the executable permission is not set on the Squeak VM Opt. It should look like
-rwxr-xr-x 1 johnmci staff 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt
Lacking the 'x' means it won't execute.
Given the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip and in the Finder if you control- click on it to get the command menu and pick 'Open with' it should say that 'BOMArchiveHelper.app' is the application used to open a ZIP file.
Double clicking on the ZIP file in the macintosh Finder should also run BOMArchiveHelper to unzip the file.
I suspect you used the unzip command line tool to unzip the zip file, in checking this way of unzipping the archive I found it does not restore the execute bit properly.
On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Randy Heiland wrote:
Hi folks, I am thinking of you all at Squeakfest this week and thought I'd try to install/play with the OLPC-Etoys that was advertised on the Squeakfest site. Downloading that .zip file and unzipping it, I followed the terse README and dragged 'etoys.image' onto 'Squeakland.app', but nothing happened, i.e. Etoys didn't pop up. Still being a somewhat newbie in OSX, could someone offer up some clues?
Previously, I had downloaded etoys from squeakland and that ran fine on my Mac.
Fwiw, I'm running OSX 10.4.10 and have:
~/dev/Education/OLPC$ ll total 89264 drwxr-xr-x 25 heiland heiland 850 Aug 3 12:42 ExampleEtoys/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 76288 Jan 21 2006 KedamaPlugin2.dll -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 24631486 Aug 3 12:33 OLPC- Etoys070726.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 340 Jul 26 11:12 README -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 1077760 Sep 23 2004 Squeak.exe -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 211 Jul 26 11:36 Squeak.ini drwxr-xr-x 3 heiland heiland 102 Aug 3 12:42 Squeakland.app/ -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 19899484 Jul 26 11:37 etoys.image
~/dev/Education/OLPC/Squeakland.app/Contents/MacOS$ ll total 5136 -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 2624364 May 16 11:00 Squeak VM Opt -rw-r--r-- 1 heiland heiland 66 May 16 11:01 Squeak VM Opt.sig
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Randy you can double click the image file and that should run the most current virtual machine you have. You can do get Info on the etoys.image in the Finder and examine and alter the Open with: tab to see which VM the *.image file is going to use. If you have multiple etoy folders, installs, Squeak VMs, and OLPC VMs/images it can be a bit confusing about which VM will be used. Sometimes the Finder has it's own ideas, although it should be using the "latest" application that understands how to open the document.
Technically think of the VM as the macintosh application, and the image file as the Document.
I noticed the SqueakLand.app VM on the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip contains internally a Squeakland.image which is used by default if you double click on the SqueakLand.app. You could replace that Squeakland.image with another image if needbe.
Mind I suspect the Squeakland.app in the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip should not contain the Squeakland.image since I think it's replaced by the etoys.image? Er this makes the zip file 2x as large since there are two images in the zip file.
If you desire a command line equivalent there are a number of choices. The easiest is to use the 'open' command
open -a Squeakland.app etoys.image
which says open the application Squeakland.app with the document etoys.image
On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:08 AM, Randy Heiland wrote:
Is there an alternative to dragging the image onto the app to fire up etoys - preferably a command line equivalent?
-Randy
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John,
Mind I suspect the Squeakland.app in the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip should not contain the Squeakland.image since I think it's replaced by the etoys.image? Er this makes the zip file 2x as large since there are two images in the zip file.
Oops. There shouldn't be another image (other than etoys.image) in the zip file. For the next round, I'll make up with a zip file that follows Sophie structure, I guess.
-- Yoshiki
Just to follow up on this - is there an updated .zip to download from somewhere?
-Randy
On Aug 11, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
John,
Mind I suspect the Squeakland.app in the OLPC-Etoys070726.zip should not contain the Squeakland.image since I think it's replaced by the etoys.image? Er this makes the zip file 2x as large since there are two images in the zip file.
Oops. There shouldn't be another image (other than etoys.image) in the zip file. For the next round, I'll make up with a zip file that follows Sophie structure, I guess.
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Randy,
Just to follow up on this - is there an updated .zip to download from somewhere?
http://tinlizzie.org/olpc/OLPC-Etoys070821.zip
is the one so far. It is not yet in the form of installer, but should be usable.
-- Yoshiki
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