Hi, Sheine - Well, this is interesting "information"....neither Microsoft nor the Foundation are providing any support to Viewpoints or "Squeak" at this time. Many of the Squeakland community have thought it might be interesting to propose for funding to the MS Foundation -- and now with the recent news of their support to NY schools. However, at this point, what you've heard is rumor OR it may be that they are supporting a school and that school is using Squeak but if this is the case, I am personally unaware. best, Kim

At 11:25 AM -0400 9/29/03, Mankovsky, Sheine wrote:

Hi. I met yesterday with one of the TDSB trustees (not running again) who works for Microsoft. Her name is Elizebeth Moyer and she is manager for something related to money to schools for innovation (I think). She said she thought that Microsoft was supporting Squeak in the U.S. We've never talked about that and I haven't noticed anything, except that Microsoft/Foundation might be supporting laptops in schools.

I was thinking of pursuing re the Squeak trial at the TDSB. However, I wanted to consult with you first re Microsoft involvement.

Sheine

-----Original Message----- From: Kim Rose To: Greg Brunet; squeakland@squeakland.org Cc: Rose, Kim Sent: 20/08/2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Squeakland] Tutorials not working quite right

Hi, Greg - Sorry to learn about your hassles.... As far as known problems with IE6 on Win XP I leave that to our expert, Mike, to address....and will ask him to respond to you. As far as your trouble with the Paint tutorial -- that Tutorial was written at a time when the Etoy interface was a bit different and that 'onion skin' only covered the painting *area* leaving the remainder of the world/screen uncovered. We are updating/improving that tutorial RIGHT NOW and plan to have a better version there for use very shortly. When you finish a tutorial, the best thing is to "return to the browser" and then use your browser's back button to navigate within the Squeakland site to either do another tutorial or play, explore other areas. Thanks for your willingness, and patience as we grow and improve! cheers, Kim

At 1:16 PM -0500 8/19/03, Greg Brunet wrote:

...

I recently found the Squeakland site and thought it would be neat to

let

...

my kids try it out. Unfortunately, when I went into the tutorials, I ran into problems on the background and the first (painting) tutorial. I'm wondering if there is a known problem running the Squeak plug-in on IE6 on Win XP (though the problem still exists after I escape the

browser),

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or perhaps the tutorials aren't quite ready.

In the case of the background, the right edge of the text is cut off (I'd guess about 3-5 characters worth) making it hard to read the article. Also, if I left click on the text, then use the mouse scroll wheel (expecting to scroll down in the text), the pictures jump from

the

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right to the left side, covering the text. I can't figure out how to

move

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them back off the text.

In the case of the painting etoy, after escaping the browser and clicking on the paintbrush icon as directed on page 1, a transparent skin covers the entire screen, not just the working area. If I try to click on the 'page' buttons, I end up painting on them instead. I can only get rid of the skin by choosing 'keep' or 'toss' on the palette.

I

...

can't follow the rest of the tutorial, because the paint operation

isn't

...

staying within the workarea. Is there a way to fix these problems?

Finally, it's not clear what to do after reaching the end of a tutorial lesson. The 'prev/next' buttons on the navigator tab don't seem to do anything, so I was left with selecting 'quit' which took me back to my browser with a blank screen and a message "Squeak Plugin <inactive>". Is there a way to navigate to the next tutorial or at least back to the webpage?

Thanks,

-- Greg

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