Hi all,
I've posted this to squeak-dev and on mantis (see below) but its clear if this preference has a champion (someone who is willing to defend it) they are probably on this list.
So does anybody cherish this option? Can it be removed in the name of simplifing what has to be maintained?
Reply here or squeak dev. And if what you want to say is definative please add to the mantis issue.
--- Peace Jerome peace_the_dreamer@yahoo.com wrote:
Can we remove the mouseOverHalo option?
It is of limited use as implemented.
When enabled the only thing that gets a mouse over halo is a sketch morph owned by the current world. Nothing else seems to notice the option.
<snipped see the mantis report for full details>
So can we eliminate this from squeak and make it more maintainable?
Yours in service, -- Jerome Peace
P.S. I have put this up as a mantis report:
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Hi, Jerome - This preference was created especially for childrens' use and is quite helpful to kids first learning to work with sketches and manipulating them via the handles in the halo. Is there a reason that merely opting *not* to use this preference and saving an image this way will not suffice your need? Certainly for the "Squeak" image (vs. the "Squeakland" image) this may not be problemmatic as we advise any teacher, parent or child using Squeak to make eToys to use the "Squeakland image" which has this option. -- Kim
At 5:53 PM -0700 9/11/06, Peace Jerome wrote:
Hi all,
I've posted this to squeak-dev and on mantis (see below) but its clear if this preference has a champion (someone who is willing to defend it) they are probably on this list.
So does anybody cherish this option? Can it be removed in the name of simplifing what has to be maintained?
Reply here or squeak dev. And if what you want to say is definative please add to the mantis issue.
--- Peace Jerome peace_the_dreamer@yahoo.com wrote:
Can we remove the mouseOverHalo option?
It is of limited use as implemented.
When enabled the only thing that gets a mouse over halo is a sketch morph owned by the current world. Nothing else seems to notice the option.
<snipped see the mantis report for full details> > > So can we eliminate this from squeak and make it > more > maintainable? >
Yours in service, -- Jerome Peace
P.S. I have put this up as a mantis report:
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Hi Kim,
Thank you for your quick response.
[Squeakland] Can we remove the mouseOverHalo option?
Kim Rose kim.rose at squeakland.org Tue Sep 12 05:18:25 PDT 2006 wrote:
Hi, Jerome - This preference was created especially for childrens'
use and is
quite helpful to kids first learning to work with
sketches and
manipulating them via the handles in the halo.
Ok. That's what I was looking for.
Is there a reason that merely opting *not* to use
this preference
and saving an image this way will not suffice your
need?
I didn't ask my question with a wish to eliminate the feature. I wanted to find out who its customers were. I also wanted to find out who spoke for those customers. Now that I have the follow-on question becomes:
If you could have things anyway you wanted them how would you want them? Why do mouseOverHalos only affect sketch morphs? What makes scketch morphs special to the children?
The other way to eliminate the preference is to find out if anybody (on the squeakdev side) cares if it is always on.
Which brings me to the point I can address your question. The number of prefences in squeak has grown so great that maintaining squeak by testing all the combinations is not possible. Any option eliminated cuts the task in half. So I am exploring that.
If you'll remember the request the inventor of the chess made of the king. A how the king realized it would be easier to cut off the inventors head than place twice the number of grains on each successive square of the board. You will have some idea of the maintainence issues involved. :-)
Certainly for the "Squeak" image (vs. the
"Squeakland" image) this
may not be problemmatic as we advise any teacher,
parent or child
using Squeak to make eToys to use the "Squeakland
image" which has
this option. -- Kim
Cool.
Yours in service, -- Jerome Peace
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Peace Jerome