Thanks for the note, Kim. When I say it "got gridded" (sorry for the non-technical language), I mean that it instantly hung: the grid appeared, the progress bar never showed up, and I lost control of the window by any means other than hitting ESC. I couldn't click on anything at that point, or any point thereafter.
I have discovered that (usually) if I choose "Publish As", all will work as you describe, except for the incident today.
It may be that I am a relative newbie to Squeak, but I think it's got so much potential that I really want to make it work. I'm using it in my grade 6 computers class, and in my grade 7 programming class with slightly different emphases. I love the concrete nature of it for teaching programming.
Is the debug file a separate file? Is that saved in the same folder as the .pr file? I know that I can get info when I try to debug using the ESC button, but that has several different views and doesn't seem to be an actual file I can send.
Thanks, Bob Irving
Kim Rose kim.rose@squeakland.org 1/31/2005 5:47:08 PM >>>
Hi, Bob - When you say "it got gridded" do you mean did it totally hang up? You are probably aware, but every project when 'publishing" will show the "grid overlay" at first. This then prompts a progress bar that changes color as the individual objects are saved. When the cycle has successfully completed, the progress bar and grid disappear leaving the (now published) project on your screen and the .pr file in your desired folder. I am guessing you mean the project froze or hung in the process while watching the progress bar...??? Please do send your debug file to Mike Rueger -- address above and copied of this mail. THanks! You might also want to send him the project you are having trouble publishing, too. sorry for these hassles! Kim
At 12:13 PM -0500 1/31/05, Bob Irving wrote:
Well,
I thought I had it solved: hold the click on Publish It, and wait
for
the menu of options, then choose Publish As, and choose User (which
puts
it in My Documents in XP). A bit awkward, but workable. Except
today,
I tried that and it gridded as soon as I clicked on Publish It, while
I
was demonstrating to a student on how to save his project. Unfortunately, I said something I shouldn't have said in front of a student!
Be that as it may, I would like to submit my debug info somewhere.
How
and where should I send it?
TIA, Bob Irving
Bob Irving Middle School Technology Facilitator Lancaster Country Day School Lancaster, PA "It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory." W. Edward Deming
Kim Rose kim.rose@squeakland.org 01/24/05 8:07 PM >>>
Hi, Bob - The publish it default is to the local disk. What happens when you don't hold down on Publish it to get all options and just click quickly on Publish it? This should prompt a naming dialog box and be the simple way to publish/save straight onto your local drive (if that's indeed what you wish to do.)
Sorry to hear you are having problems. Let us know if you've gotten them resolved or need more help, Kim
At 3:27 PM -0500 1/21/05, Bob Irving wrote:
Thanks for the responses so far.
Here is the pertinent info *
Win XP IE 6 Sqeak 3.2.4913 Update 227
I choose Publish As when I click and hold on the Publish It! option
on
the Navigator. I then get the Publish This Project dialog box, and one of the
options
is the MyDocuments folder on the local machine. However, if you
don't
know to click and hold on the Publish It! option, I think it
defaults
to
publish on a server or somewhere else, and the system hangs.
Hope this helps. I won't be able to find an errorlog until next
week
(got all the computers locked in their cart).
Thanks again,
Bob Irving Middle School Technology Facilitator Lancaster Country Day School Lancaster, PA "It is not necessary to change. Survival is not mandatory." W.
Edward
Deming _______________________________________________ Squeakland mailing list Squeakland@squeakland.org http://squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland
On Monday 31 January 2005 3:48 pm, Bob Irving wrote:
Thanks for the note, Kim. When I say it "got gridded" (sorry for the non-technical language), I mean that it instantly hung: the grid appeared, the progress bar never showed up, and I lost control of the window by any means other than hitting ESC. I couldn't click on anything at that point, or any point thereafter.
If it responded to your hitting Esc, then it already failed, and the details would be in the previous (the real) project. So you hit Esc, then use the World menu that then appears to go to the previous project (the real project) and look for a debug notifier on the screen. Choose "save to log"; then send the SqueakDebug.log file that is created in the default directory to us.
squeakland@lists.squeakfoundation.org