Thanks!

I took a look and it is exactly what I was looking for, but from first glance, VERY difficult to use. But then as we programmers say, if it was hard to write it should be hard to use! :)

I'll see if I can create anything useful with it.

The way HyperScore works is simple. You create a several-note 'motive' (regular English for Motif I guess) then 'paint' the screen with it. You can overlay several motives and then have the system auto-generate various harmonies. It just seems like it ought to be in Squeak to me. Wish I had the time or ability to code it up...

D

At 10:32 PM 8/15/2003 +0200, Remi Sussan wrote:

Doug,

Perhaps you would be interested by geomaestro (http://www.zogotounga.net/comp/squeak/sqgeo.htm) which allows to "draw" musical compositions. Warning! geomaestro is apparently not easy to work with (I downloaded the program, but never really tried to use it) and is certainly NOT targeted toward children. But perhaps it is possible, for a good programmer, to use geomaestro basic intructions, and, from them, create a funnier and easier program for children?.

Remi

PS: interesting to that Tod Machover is at the origin of toysymphony project. I remember having seen his Valis opera, based on Philip K.Dick novel, played at Centre Georges Pompidou around 15 years ago...

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I just got back from Tech Fest and was fortunate enough to spend some time with Tod Machover of MIT Media Lab. I was completely impressed with Toy Symphony's HyperScore program (www.toysymphony.net) and have been

composing

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music with it ever since downloading it.

Basically, it is an application that allows children to 'paint' music. One does not need to understand music notation or theory. It is all done visually and aurally.

Then I though, this would be the PERFECT Squeak app. My daughter spent a bit of time with Tod's daughter (10 and 9 respectively) and it would be incredible if they could collaborate in composition efforts a la Squeak.

Would anyone out there in Squeak-land be interested in talking to the students who wrote HyperScore and look at porting it to Squeak? Are there other music authoring applications that I am not aware of?

D

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Thanks Ken --

For those who are interested, you could try to see what you can do with the very easy two line script that will sample in real-time at any pitch. You can also try to use "color sees" and other devices to get parameters from the world that can be used to control sound. Squeak itself can synth about 100 parallel real-time stereo tracks, and there are synth methods in there for sampling, FM, wave shaping, etc. There is the ScorePlayerMorph which can play midi files and allows you to both orchestrate and to compose, etc.

This is a big interest of ours, but we didn't quite get the music part of Squeak up to being smooth enough and documented enough for general consumption and play. However, I've done lots of music stuff in demos, and lots can be done. One example that was particularly interesting was to play Beethoven's Fifth with normal instrumentation and then replace all the instruments with the clink sound (that has just enough pitch to work). The result is mostly the rhythmic part of this great piece and many nontrained musicians have found it particularly insightful as to how Beethoven goes about his art.

Cheers,

Alan

At 8:18 AM +0100 8/16/03, Ken Kahn wrote:

A nice example of a tool for "painting" music is SimTunes published by Maxis in 1996. You program lots of bugs that make music as they move and interact. Originally a hit in Japan and the folks at Maxis really liked this program. Don't think it sold too well though.

Best,

-ken kahn

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