Hi,
Thank you for the interest in NetMorph project.
The reason I'm developing NetMorph in Squeak 3.8 is that 3.8 is a sort of stable version. After releasing NetMorph for 3.8, I'll start NetMorph for Squeakland 05. I think it is not so hard work, because Squeakland 05 is based on Squeak 3.8.
NetMorph for 3.8 will be released in a few weeks. For Squeakland 05, one more week will be needed.
So, please wait patiently. I would like to make NetMorph to be "classroom" quality.
Best regards,
Hi Squeakers,
As events from Squeakfest continue to bubble in my brain and outreach opportunities present themselves, I've been wondering lately about the NetMorph demo. I think this sort of functionality, i.e., distributed objects in Squeak, would be great fun and could lead to some terrific educational projects. So, my first question is - exactly how steep is the barrier to getting it working in the Squeakland version of Squeak (since it was pointed out that it required the "full" Squeak version).
(Warning: probably leaving the intended range of topics for this list) This got me to wonder, more generally, about the differences in "full" Squeak (at squeak.org) vs. Squeakland Squeak and, for that matter, full Squeak vs. Tweak (or whatever it may eventually be called). For starters, there's the question of the sizes (disk and memory) of these different animals. A quick glance at the size of the image from Squeakland05 is ~17M. After downloading Squeak 3.8, I see its image is ~18M, but there's also a 14M "changes" file which, I'm assuming is required to run the image? Running the Squeakland05 app, I see it uses about 28M of memory. The Squeak 3.8 app uses about the same.
I guess buried in my ramblings is my concern for yet another open source software community to be split. My desire to have the NetMorph functionality, but wanting to stay with the more kid-friendly Squeakland version of Squeak, is just one semi-frustrating example.
--Randy
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Masashi, Thanks for the reply! I will anxiously await NetMorph for Squeakland05.
--Randy
-----Original Message----- From: squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org [mailto:squeakland- bounces@squeakland.org] On Behalf Of Masashi Umezawa Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:28 AM To: squeakland@squeakland.org Subject: Re: [Squeakland] NetMorph; squeakland vs. squeak
Hi,
Thank you for the interest in NetMorph project.
The reason I'm developing NetMorph in Squeak 3.8 is that 3.8 is a sort of stable version. After releasing NetMorph for 3.8, I'll start NetMorph for Squeakland 05. I think it is not so hard work, because Squeakland 05 is based on Squeak 3.8.
NetMorph for 3.8 will be released in a few weeks. For Squeakland 05, one more week will be needed.
So, please wait patiently. I would like to make NetMorph to be "classroom" quality.
Best regards,
Hi Squeakers,
As events from Squeakfest continue to bubble in my brain and outreach opportunities present themselves, I've been wondering lately about the NetMorph demo. I think this sort of functionality, i.e., distributed objects in Squeak, would be great fun and could lead to some terrific educational projects. So, my first question is - exactly how steep is
the
barrier to getting it working in the Squeakland version of Squeak (since
it
was pointed out that it required the "full" Squeak version).
(Warning: probably leaving the intended range of topics for this list) This got me to wonder, more generally, about the differences in "full" Squeak (at squeak.org) vs. Squeakland Squeak and, for that matter, full Squeak vs. Tweak (or whatever it may eventually be called). For
starters,
there's the question of the sizes (disk and memory) of these different animals. A quick glance at the size of the image from Squeakland05 is
~17M.
After downloading Squeak 3.8, I see its image is ~18M, but there's also
a
14M "changes" file which, I'm assuming is required to run the image? Running the Squeakland05 app, I see it uses about 28M of memory. The
Squeak
3.8 app uses about the same.
I guess buried in my ramblings is my concern for yet another open source software community to be split. My desire to have the NetMorph functionality, but wanting to stay with the more kid-friendly Squeakland version of Squeak, is just one semi-frustrating example.
--Randy
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