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NYTimes.com: His Libraries, 12, 000 So Far, Change Lives
by carnen＠mac.com 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

This page was sent to you by: carnen(a)mac.com. Ha fundado 12,000 pequenas bibliotecas. Continua agregando 6 por dia. OPINION | November 06, 2011 Op-Ed Columnist: His Libraries, 12,000 So Far, Change Lives By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF Andrew Carnegie's legendary library-building has been surpassed, in some respects, by an American you've probably never heard of. This is his story. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/opinion/sunday/kristof-his-libraries-1200… ---------------------------------------------------------- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. For general information about NYTimes.com, write to help(a)nytimes.com. NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 Copyright 2011 The New York Times Company

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NYTimes.com: Restaurant Report: Isla de Flores 1900 in Montevideo, Uruguay
by carnen＠mac.com 06 Nov '11

06 Nov '11

This page was sent to you by: carnen(a)mac.com. Jovenes uruguayos con ideas originales, son reconocidos internacionalmente por su habilidad profesional internacional, mientras trabajan en lo que les gusta. TRAVEL | November 06, 2011 Bites: Restaurant Report: Isla de Flores 1900 in Montevideo, Uruguay By PAOLA SINGER A six-table spot specializes in meat prepared in European styles, resulting in homey and high-end dishes. http://travel.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/travel/isla-de-flores-1900-in-montevid… ---------------------------------------------------------- ABOUT THIS E-MAIL This e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. For general information about NYTimes.com, write to help(a)nytimes.com. NYTimes.com 620 Eighth Avenue New York, NY 10018 Copyright 2011 The New York Times Company

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Re: [squeakland] Kids using images and scripting
by Steve Thomas 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

Ed's drawings are wonderful, so are his illustrations and activities. It would be great if we could get some of them in Etoys (with his permission), he seems to allow free use for personal, classroom and library use. The only thing missing is the ability to create pie wedges in Etoys. It can be done, but it is far from trivial and obvious (a grab tool can be used to get quarters, to get eights and beyond you need a quarter, turned 45 degrees and the use the grab tool again, etc).Or to get more precise wedges, place the circle in a playfield with its center in the lower left corner, the use grab tool, the take that image (after editing using "no color" fill) and rotate with vertex in one corner and use grab tool again. So either a Pie Wedge in the object catalog or a circle tile that "cuts into parts | #" or some canned images ;) Stephen On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Kim Rose <kim.rose(a)vpri.org> wrote: > Hi, Karl, > > Illustrator Ed Edemberley has a fairly simple way of making many animals > and more using simple shapes that work well with the basic shapes of the > Etoys paint palette. > > http://www.edemberley.com/**pages/main.aspx?section=db<http://www.edemberley.com/pages/main.aspx?section=db> > > Check it out.... > > -- Kim > > > > > > > On Oct 31, 2011, at 11:18 AM, karl ramberg wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Kim Rose <kim.rose(a)vpri.org> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> A quick bit of history and a reminder: >>> >>> Etoys was developed with the idea that the children would create *their >>> own* >>> art -- to encourage drawing and not just cut/pasting other people's >>> clip-art. We'd love to see that encouraged although we realize there >>> are >>> "powerful forces" working against us. Children have little self-esteem >>> regarding their drawing skills; they need encouragement, praise and >>> practice. >>> >>> Additionally, the original intent of Etoys was not to enable/encourage >>> all >>> kids to be "programmers" but to get children to think more >>> scientifically, >>> and less superstitiously, and in a more thoughtful manner all together >>> when >>> thinking about the world we inhabit and how it works. >>> >>> Kim Rose >>> >> >> I agree with much of this. >> But we must help the kids by showing them a way. >> Many kids will just give up as it's too much to discover and its to >> hard to do by them self. >> What I think is way forward is to help kids make the stuff they want. >> Tutorials and specially youtube clips showing how to make the kind of >> images they like will encourage them to make it them self. >> >> Art is hard and it's not obvious how to make it. Lot's of tricks and tools >> are used and it take some dedication. >> >> Etoys paint tools are good for most cases but can be a little crude and >> unforgiving. >> >> Crude by having only round and big brushes. And the very hard >> pixelated edges makes detail work hard. >> Non obvious color palette memory. There is no zoom to do details. >> >> Unforgiving in the sense that editing instances take time getting used >> to. You edit the original! You must remember to keep a copy or you >> lose your work ! >> >> >> Karl >> >> >> >>> Viewpoints Research is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to >>> improving "powerful ideas education" for the world's children and >>> advancing >>> the state of systems research and personal computing. Please visit us >>> online >>> at www.vpri.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Steve Thomas wrote: >>> >>> Changed subject from previous emails. >>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Bert Freudenberg < >>>> bert(a)freudenbergs.de> >>>> wrote: >>>> On 31.10.2011, at 03:09, Ricardo Moran wrote: >>>> >>>> Some kids told me they would want more graphics to choose in Etoys >>>>> (like >>>>> the ones in Scratch). >>>>> >>>> >>>> Why don't they use images they found on the web, or took using a camera? >>>> >>>> So I see a couple of issues: >>>> • Should we include a predefined set of images similar to Scratch? >>>> • Why don't kids use images found on web or took using a camera? >>>> • How can we get kids scripting (as opposed to just "playing with >>>> images" and creating cartoons) >>>> On item 1: Should we include a predefined set of images similar to >>>> Scratch? >>>> The argument I have heard against including images is that kids that: >>>> "Seeing graphics that they might not be able to create themselves easily >>>> can discourage them from make their own paintings." >>>> >>>> If that is the case, then why do are there so many kid created graphics >>>> in >>>> Scratch projects? I have, on admittedly limited evidence, seen kids >>>> getting >>>> stuck drawing, because they feel they can't draw well enough, which >>>> slows/stops them. >>>> >>>> On item 2: Why don't kids use images found on web or took using a >>>> camera? >>>> Good question, once I show kids that this can be done, they do it. So >>>> perhaps it is an issue of "discoverability"? >>>> There is a quick guide on Objects/Digital Images which is XO specific. >>>> But >>>> does not indicate how to import an image from the Web on XO. >>>> Also, the switching to journal/copy to clipboard, ... may be too many >>>> steps, which might discourage kids. >>>> >>>> On item 3: How can we get kids scripting, modeling, simulating (as >>>> opposed to just "playing with images" and creating cartoons) >>>> Great question, need to think about this some more. Not that playing >>>> with >>>> images, creating cartoons and using Etoys as a PowerPoint replacement >>>> are >>>> bad things, but how do we get them scripting, modeling, simulating as >>>> well. >>>> >>>> Stephen >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> squeakland mailing list >>>> squeakland(a)squeakland.org >>>> http://lists.squeakland.org/**mailman/listinfo/squeakland<http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Squeakland mailing list >>> Squeakland(a)squeakland.org >>> http://lists.squeakland.org/**mailman/listinfo/squeakland<http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland> >>> >>> >

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