On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:33:37 -0700, mmille10@comcast.net wrote:
No, they didn't use the term "office suite" back then. I was relating the curriculum to what it would be called now. We did learn about how to use a word processor, spreadsheet, and database application, though. Yes, they were separate applications. May be I didn't make that clearin what I wrote. I remember we used AppleWriter (I think), and VisiCalc,and some database app. whose name I can't remember, all on Apple II's.
Well, let me apologize if I sounded overly picky. There was a very short window (historically speaking) for when "office suite" might have meant anything other than "Microsoft Office". It's depressing to hear that (at least in your experience) the needle went from oddball geek hobby to mundane replacement for typewriter, ledger and filing system. To their current state: Monopoly perpetuators.
I'm maybe 2 years older than you and my experience was at two different extremes: I went to a private school which was ahead of the curve as far as computers go (having a PDP-11 and several Apple ][s for all those who were interested, which was not many), and then to a public school which had never seen a computer--put still, net percentage, the difference between the two in terms of population that knew or cared about computers was probably about the same.
But you know, it doesn't seem to matter much what subject it is, I've seen the same thing in all of them: if the student is interested, nothing will stop him; if not, nothing will help. Some of this is a matter of native interest: We are not all interested in the same things, and no matter how delightfully presented, the subject will remain at best a mild curiosity. Too much of it is a matter of interest destroyed: A student attacks a subject vigorously but is crushed in some manner or another, say with the sort of ritualistic kind of "teaching" Alan describes, where there is no understanding, and these days where the rituals have been replaced with a shadow of something that "builds self-esteem" while even denigrating understanding. And of course the usual brutal traditions of bad teachers.
There are few techniques to rehabilitate blunted interest and fewer people who know how to apply them.