Hi Markus --
I don't think this would be a great idea. Squeakland is explicitly for teachers and parents (and they are very shy as it is). I think it would be very confusing to convolve discussions about Etoys with discussions about Squeak (especially since most of these users think Etoys is Squeak).
Let's set up a separate list please.
Cheers,
Alan
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At 02:59 AM 4/23/2006, Markus Gaelli wrote:
On Apr 23, 2006, at 11:16 AM, francois schnell wrote:
On 23/04/06, Markus Gaelli gaelli@emergent.de wrote:
I also think it is important not to end up with a plethora of lists, so my suggestion is to reuse squeakland for also posing and answering basic smalltalk questions.
- Kim, would it be ok to ask smalltalk questions on squeakland?
I think one factor of the success of the french squeak list, is that it focuses on education, be it with etoys or smalltalk.
I actually think it would be a bad idea to mix using etoys questions with finding your way in the class browser (not the same thing, not the same targeted audience).
Concerning the french Squeak-list, which is a good list, if you look closely you won't see a lot people actually *learning* smalltalk : giving example of problem they have with their code, asking for help, etc.
For the moment the Squeak lists reflect its community state. Apart from Squeakland (for etoys), Squeak is orientated research/ hackers which is OK but I believe it *needs" students/teachers/ people *learning* Squeak to produce useful tools-apps (not mainly research ones)
Exactly. With you, Hillaire, Stef, Serge and others we have these educational but still technical people in the french list - as there are some willing and helpful old time squeakers like Scott, Bert, Yoshiki and others in squeakland.
So I actually don't understand why we should not strive to get all this people together who are interested in Squeak as a learning platform, be it for smalltalk, etoys and the rest of the universe - as long as there is some interest to keep squeakland of course.
I don't think we are enough to allow us to split into more and more subgroups, think about the currently quite quiet lists of tweak and croquet. Instead we better join forces in some "squeak and learning" list, and isn't that what squeakland is all about?
Please reply to squeakland also, there is not too much traffic on it either... Or maybe neither you nor Stef are registered there, which I'd find a bit strange ;-)
Cheers,
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