Hi,
How do I import a wav file into Squeak? The filelist dialog doesn't recognize wav files as sound files. The SoundRecorder widget only generates sound tiles but cannot export/import wav :-(
TIA .. Subbu
waveStream := FileStream oldFileOrNoneNamed: self audioFilename.
(SampledSound fromWaveStream: waveStream) play.
- Brian On Sep 21, 2007, at 10:56 AM, subbukk wrote:
Hi,
How do I import a wav file into Squeak? The filelist dialog doesn't recognize wav files as sound files. The SoundRecorder widget only generates sound tiles but cannot export/import wav :-(
TIA .. Subbu
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Hello Subbu,
In order to import a WAVE file (at least for pre-OLPC Squeak), you would need to run (i.e., "do") the following Smalltalk code (replacing "variableName", "soundFile", and "soundName" with your own appropriate values):
variableName := SampledSound fromWaveFileNamed: 'soundFile.wav'. SampledSound addLibrarySoundNamed: 'soundName' samples: variableName samples samplingRate: variableName originalSamplingRate.
After which you can call the sound named "soundName" from either the eToys or Smalltalk interface. Note that, in order to make the sound a permanent part of the Squeak image, you will need to save the image.
I hope this helps (and is still relevant to the current version of Squeak).
All best,
John
On 9/21/07, subbukk subbukk@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
How do I import a wav file into Squeak? The filelist dialog doesn't recognize wav files as sound files. The SoundRecorder widget only generates sound tiles but cannot export/import wav :-(
TIA .. Subbu
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subbukk wrote:
Hi,
How do I import a wav file into Squeak? The filelist dialog doesn't recognize wav files as sound files. The SoundRecorder widget only generates sound tiles but cannot export/import wav :-(
Sound import is well hidden in Squeak. But it is possible: (SampledSound fromWaveFileNamed: 'c:\windows\media\chimes.wav') play
I have been looking at these classes lately and have been thinking at different solutions. One thing I was wondering about is whether filedialogs are abounded in OLPC and just drag and drop supported ? And there is no sound library tool which could reference all sounds present in the Etoys sound tiles. How should such a tool be implemented ? Like a book ?
Karl
On Sep 21, 2007, at 22:05 , karl wrote:
subbukk wrote:
Hi,
How do I import a wav file into Squeak? The filelist dialog doesn't recognize wav files as sound files. The SoundRecorder widget only generates sound tiles but cannot export/import wav :-(
Sound import is well hidden in Squeak. But it is possible: (SampledSound fromWaveFileNamed: 'c:\windows\media\chimes.wav') play
I have been looking at these classes lately and have been thinking at different solutions. One thing I was wondering about is whether filedialogs are abounded in OLPC
Yes - at least for the time being. There may be dialogs for selecting media from the Journal later but those have not been implemented by the Sugar developers, yet, and may not be implemented before the first release.
and just drag and drop supported ?
Yes. We should add some visual representation for a dropped sound file, which supports play back. Like a very simple sound tile with just the name on it and a tiny play button. I think that would be preferable to opening a WaveEditor (even if that was fixed), although we might do this as a quick fix.
And there is no sound library tool which could reference all sounds present in the Etoys sound tiles. How should such a tool be implemented ? Like a book ?
Maybe a parts bin with all these little tiles? Or like the object catalog where we have sorting and filtering options? That would be a nice contribution. The core developers must focus on fixing bugs and implement missing support now (it's only one month to First Deployment), but I for one welcome such improvements from others.
- Bert -
On Saturday 22 September 2007 8:02 pm, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
And there is no sound library tool which could reference all sounds present in the Etoys sound tiles. How should such a tool be implemented ? Like a book ?
Maybe a parts bin with all these little tiles? Or like the object catalog where we have sorting and filtering options? That would be a nice contribution. The core developers must focus on fixing bugs and implement missing support now (it's only one month to First Deployment), but I for one welcome such improvements from others.
Squeak does not have a generic mechanism for browsing non-text collections like sound, video or even projects contained within an image. I like the catalog idea with some extensions. The browser manages a collection of tags each of which represent a collection. Then it could display the tag names in the top pane with a 'more ...' button. A selected collection tag could be iterated in the bottom pane. Collections could register their tags with the catalog browser and allow operations for iterations, icons, tiles, morphs, players, editors etc.
The file/directory browser is also a catalog browser except that the collection is generated on the fly (by a file or directory open operation) and transient (i.e. not saved in an image but disposed by close operation). A directory would be tagged collection of Morphs. A mime detector would attempt to match a file into an existing morph (e.g. wav, flv, mpg, .image etc.).
Any ideas to get me started? .. Subbu
Hi,
You can donwload this project http://ofset.org:8000/super/uploads/traitementSons.015.pr It contains just a change set adding some feature to the sound recorder.
The halo's menu has two new items: Load SoundFile and Remove Sound from Librairy.
Load SoundFile open a file browser window and let you see aiff and wave sounds. Sound loaded behave the same as recorded sound.
To put it in the sound library just hit the tile button.
You can ignore the button install , it will load French translation for menu items and some messages.
To get a soundrecorder in English, just throw away the french one, change the language to English and get a new one from object catalog.
For another language, just change the language to yours, edit the script install in the World's viewer and run it. It is important to change the language first since translations are added to the current language. For the olpc team:
Feel free to add this changes to the OLPC image if you like it.(And add mp3 by the way (if possible )) Regards
-------- Message d'origine-------- De: squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org de la part de subbukk Date: mar. 25/09/2007 06:12 À: squeakland@squeakland.org Objet : Re: [Squeakland] Importing wav files
On Saturday 22 September 2007 8:02 pm, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
And there is no sound library tool which could reference all sounds present in the Etoys sound tiles. How should such a tool be implemented ? Like a book ?
Maybe a parts bin with all these little tiles? Or like the object catalog where we have sorting and filtering options? That would be a nice contribution. The core developers must focus on fixing bugs and implement missing support now (it's only one month to First Deployment), but I for one welcome such improvements from others.
Squeak does not have a generic mechanism for browsing non-text collections like sound, video or even projects contained within an image. I like the catalog idea with some extensions. The browser manages a collection of tags each of which represent a collection. Then it could display the tag names in the top pane with a 'more ...' button. A selected collection tag could be iterated in the bottom pane. Collections could register their tags with the catalog browser and allow operations for iterations, icons, tiles, morphs, players, editors etc.
The file/directory browser is also a catalog browser except that the collection is generated on the fly (by a file or directory open operation) and transient (i.e. not saved in an image but disposed by close operation). A directory would be tagged collection of Morphs. A mime detector would attempt to match a file into an existing morph (e.g. wav, flv, mpg, .image etc.).
Any ideas to get me started? .. Subbu
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Hi, I have just started a kind of unification of the sound stuff and made some progress. I made a SoundTool (Which I should rename SoundLibraryTool) that lists the sounds in the sound library. You can also open a WaveEditor on the sounds and you get a tile when you click on the sound.
I have made a SoundPlayerMorph that pops up when a wav or aif is dropped on Squeak. With SoundPlayerMorph you can get a tile of the sound without adding it to the library. You can add the sound to the library or edit it in WaveEditor.
There are also other fixes to the sound classes.
A few notes on your post:
FileDialogs are not part of the etoys image any longer. MP3 files are quite big and external MP3 files is maybe the best solution on the OLPC.
Karl
Dreyfuss Pierre-André (EDU) wrote:
Hi,
You can donwload this project http://ofset.org:8000/super/uploads/traitementSons.015.pr It contains just a change set adding some feature to the sound recorder.
The halo's menu has two new items: Load SoundFile and Remove Sound from Librairy.
Load SoundFile open a file browser window and let you see aiff and wave sounds. Sound loaded behave the same as recorded sound.
To put it in the sound library just hit the tile button.
You can ignore the button install , it will load French translation for menu items and some messages.
To get a soundrecorder in English, just throw away the french one, change the language to English and get a new one from object catalog.
For another language, just change the language to yours, edit the script install in the World's viewer and run it. It is important to change the language first since translations are added to the current language. For the olpc team:
Feel free to add this changes to the OLPC image if you like it.(And add mp3 by the way (if possible )) Regards
-------- Message d'origine-------- De: squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org de la part de subbukk Date: mar. 25/09/2007 06:12 À: squeakland@squeakland.org Objet : Re: [Squeakland] Importing wav files
On Saturday 22 September 2007 8:02 pm, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
And there is no sound library tool which could reference all sounds present in the Etoys sound tiles. How should such a tool be implemented ? Like a book ?
Maybe a parts bin with all these little tiles? Or like the object catalog where we have sorting and filtering options? That would be a nice contribution. The core developers must focus on fixing bugs and implement missing support now (it's only one month to First Deployment), but I for one welcome such improvements from others.
Squeak does not have a generic mechanism for browsing non-text collections like sound, video or even projects contained within an image. I like the catalog idea with some extensions. The browser manages a collection of tags each of which represent a collection. Then it could display the tag names in the top pane with a 'more ...' button. A selected collection tag could be iterated in the bottom pane. Collections could register their tags with the catalog browser and allow operations for iterations, icons, tiles, morphs, players, editors etc.
The file/directory browser is also a catalog browser except that the collection is generated on the fly (by a file or directory open operation) and transient (i.e. not saved in an image but disposed by close operation). A directory would be tagged collection of Morphs. A mime detector would attempt to match a file into an existing morph (e.g. wav, flv, mpg, .image etc.).
Any ideas to get me started? .. Subbu
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Hi, Karl and Pierre-André,
Thank you both for this work!
We now have three different bodies of code afoot that address sound issues -- the recent code from the two of you, and also some not-yet- published code of our own concerning sound-library management.
Within the next two weeks, we'll scrutinize all this code, integrate as appropriate, and put the result out as an etoys2.2 update.
Meanwhile, further tweaks and further discussions remain most welcome. Thanks again to all!
Cheers,
-- Scott
On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:18 AM, karl wrote:
Hi, I have just started a kind of unification of the sound stuff and made some progress. I made a SoundTool (Which I should rename SoundLibraryTool) that lists the sounds in the sound library. You can also open a WaveEditor on the sounds and you get a tile when you click on the sound.
I have made a SoundPlayerMorph that pops up when a wav or aif is dropped on Squeak. With SoundPlayerMorph you can get a tile of the sound without adding it to the library. You can add the sound to the library or edit it in WaveEditor.
There are also other fixes to the sound classes.
A few notes on your post:
FileDialogs are not part of the etoys image any longer. MP3 files are quite big and external MP3 files is maybe the best solution on the OLPC.
Karl
Dreyfuss Pierre-André (EDU) wrote:
Hi,
You can donwload this project http://ofset.org:8000/super/uploads/traitementSons.015.pr It contains just a change set adding some feature to the sound recorder.
The halo's menu has two new items: Load SoundFile and Remove Sound from Librairy.
Load SoundFile open a file browser window and let you see aiff and wave sounds. Sound loaded behave the same as recorded sound.
To put it in the sound library just hit the tile button.
You can ignore the button install , it will load French translation for menu items and some messages.
To get a soundrecorder in English, just throw away the french one, change the language to English and get a new one from object catalog.
For another language, just change the language to yours, edit the script install in the World's viewer and run it. It is important to change the language first since translations are added to the current language. For the olpc team:
Feel free to add this changes to the OLPC image if you like it. (And add mp3 by the way (if possible )) Regards
-------- Message d'origine-------- De: squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org de la part de subbukk Date: mar. 25/09/2007 06:12 À: squeakland@squeakland.org Objet : Re: [Squeakland] Importing wav files On Saturday 22 September 2007 8:02 pm, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
And there is no sound library tool which could reference all sounds present in the Etoys sound tiles. How should such a tool be implemented ? Like a book ?
Maybe a parts bin with all these little tiles? Or like the object catalog where we have sorting and filtering options? That would be a nice contribution. The core developers must focus on fixing bugs and implement missing support now (it's only one month to First Deployment), but I for one welcome such improvements from others.
Squeak does not have a generic mechanism for browsing non-text collections like sound, video or even projects contained within an image. I like the catalog idea with some extensions. The browser manages a collection of tags each of which represent a collection. Then it could display the tag names in the top pane with a 'more ...' button. A selected collection tag could be iterated in the bottom pane. Collections could register their tags with the catalog browser and allow operations for iterations, icons, tiles, morphs, players, editors etc.
The file/directory browser is also a catalog browser except that the collection is generated on the fly (by a file or directory open operation) and transient (i.e. not saved in an image but disposed by close operation). A directory would be tagged collection of Morphs. A mime detector would attempt to match a file into an existing morph (e.g. wav, flv, mpg, .image etc.).
Any ideas to get me started? .. Subbu
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Scott,
Will you make it available so we can move it into the main Squeak image?
On Thu September 27 2007, Scott Wallace wrote:
Hi, Karl and Pierre-André,
Thank you both for this work!
We now have three different bodies of code afoot that address sound issues -- the recent code from the two of you, and also some not-yet- published code of our own concerning sound-library management.
Within the next two weeks, we'll scrutinize all this code, integrate as appropriate, and put the result out as an etoys2.2 update.
Meanwhile, further tweaks and further discussions remain most welcome. Thanks again to all!
Cheers,
-- Scott
On Sep 25, 2007, at 11:18 AM, karl wrote:
Hi, I have just started a kind of unification of the sound stuff and made some progress. I made a SoundTool (Which I should rename SoundLibraryTool) that lists the sounds in the sound library. You can also open a WaveEditor on the sounds and you get a tile when you click on the sound.
I have made a SoundPlayerMorph that pops up when a wav or aif is dropped on Squeak. With SoundPlayerMorph you can get a tile of the sound without adding it to the library. You can add the sound to the library or edit it in WaveEditor.
There are also other fixes to the sound classes.
A few notes on your post:
FileDialogs are not part of the etoys image any longer. MP3 files are quite big and external MP3 files is maybe the best solution on the OLPC.
Karl
Dreyfuss Pierre-André (EDU) wrote:
Hi,
You can donwload this project http://ofset.org:8000/super/uploads/traitementSons.015.pr It contains just a change set adding some feature to the sound recorder.
The halo's menu has two new items: Load SoundFile and Remove Sound from Librairy.
Load SoundFile open a file browser window and let you see aiff and wave sounds. Sound loaded behave the same as recorded sound.
To put it in the sound library just hit the tile button.
You can ignore the button install , it will load French translation for menu items and some messages.
To get a soundrecorder in English, just throw away the french one, change the language to English and get a new one from object catalog.
For another language, just change the language to yours, edit the script install in the World's viewer and run it. It is important to change the language first since translations are added to the current language. For the olpc team:
Feel free to add this changes to the OLPC image if you like it. (And add mp3 by the way (if possible )) Regards
-------- Message d'origine-------- De: squeakland-bounces@squeakland.org de la part de subbukk Date: mar. 25/09/2007 06:12 À: squeakland@squeakland.org Objet : Re: [Squeakland] Importing wav files
On Saturday 22 September 2007 8:02 pm, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
And there is no sound library tool which could reference all sounds present in the Etoys sound tiles. How should such a tool be implemented ? Like a book ?
Maybe a parts bin with all these little tiles? Or like the object catalog where we have sorting and filtering options? That would be a nice contribution. The core developers must focus on fixing bugs and implement missing support now (it's only one month to First Deployment), but I for one welcome such improvements from others.
Squeak does not have a generic mechanism for browsing non-text collections like sound, video or even projects contained within an image. I like the catalog idea with some extensions. The browser manages a collection of tags each of which represent a collection. Then it could display the tag names in the top pane with a 'more ...' button. A selected collection tag could be iterated in the bottom pane. Collections could register their tags with the catalog browser and allow operations for iterations, icons, tiles, morphs, players, editors etc.
The file/directory browser is also a catalog browser except that the collection is generated on the fly (by a file or directory open operation) and transient (i.e. not saved in an image but disposed by close operation). A directory would be tagged collection of Morphs. A mime detector would attempt to match a file into an existing morph (e.g. wav, flv, mpg, .image etc.).
Any ideas to get me started? .. Subbu
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