How do I silence the 'camera' sound when items go to the trash bin, while keeping the 'preserve trash' functionality? I thought I had this solved when I found the "TrashCanMorph >> playDeleteSound" message, but this is a 'ping' sound that plays simultaneously along with the 'camera' sound. I successfullly eliminated the 'ping' by commenting it out in "TrashCanMorph
moveToTrash" but I haven't been able to figure out who's responsible for
generating the 'camera' sound. Thanks, --Mark
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 8:51 am, Mark Nelson wrote:
How do I silence the 'camera' sound when items go to the trash bin, while keeping the 'preserve trash' functionality? I thought I had this solved when I found the "TrashCanMorph >> playDeleteSound" message, but this is a 'ping' sound that plays simultaneously along with the 'camera' sound. I successfullly eliminated the 'ping' by commenting it out in "TrashCanMorph
In TrashCanMorph>>moveToTrash, you will find two statements that play sounds depending on whether preserveTrash is set or not - playSoundNamed: 'scratch' and playDeleteSound. You can mark the entire first statement as a comment to exclude sounds. E.g. "Preferences soundsEnabled ..... ]]." and that should do the trick. You could also replace the two play statements with: playSoundNamed: 'silence'
Subbu
Hi, Mark,
What you're hearing is the "page flip sound" made when the Trash "Book" is turned to a new page which will accommodate the item just added to the trash.
So to silence it, double-click on a trashcan, bring up the Trash's "book" menu, choose "sound effect for all pages", and then select "silence" as the desired sound.
Arguably it's a bug that a page-flip sound is made in this case, which we should fix in short order. In the meantime, the above procedure should bring you the silence you seek.
Cheers,
-- Scott
PS: In a current Squeakland image, the Trash's "book" menu can be obtained by clicking on the black dot in its header. In an OLPC-etoys image, bring up the halo on the trash tool, and from the halo menu choose "book..." to get the trash's "book" menu. In that book menu, click on "visual and sound effects..." and from the resulting submenu choose "set sound effect for all pages", and choose "silence" at the desired sound effect.
On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:21 PM, Mark Nelson wrote:
How do I silence the 'camera' sound when items go to the trash bin, while keeping the 'preserve trash' functionality? I thought I had this solved when I found the "TrashCanMorph >> playDeleteSound" message, but this is a 'ping' sound that plays simultaneously along with the 'camera' sound. I successfullly eliminated the 'ping' by commenting it out in "TrashCanMorph >> moveToTrash" but I haven't been able to figure out who's responsible for generating the 'camera' sound. Thanks, --Mark
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Hi Scott,
Thanks for the tip. Setting the trash can Book sound effect to "silence" works fine until the trash is emptied. After emptying the trash, I guess a new book gets created, which brings back the default 'camera' sound effect. Where does the default page turn sound get set? I'd like to set it to 'silence' for all Books, but I'm not sure how to do that. I looked at 'initialize' in BookMorph and BooklikeMorph, but didn't see it there.
As a workaround, I simply commented out the appropriate line in BooklikeMorph >> playPageFlipSound, so that page turns are always and forever silent. However, this could be problematic if a student creates a book and actually wants to turn sound effects back on.
Thanks, --Mark
On Dec 11, 2007 11:25 PM, Scott Wallace scott.wallace@squeakland.org wrote:
Hi, Mark,
What you're hearing is the "page flip sound" made when the Trash "Book" is turned to a new page which will accommodate the item just added to the trash.
So to silence it, double-click on a trashcan, bring up the Trash's "book" menu, choose "sound effect for all pages", and then select "silence" as the desired sound.
Arguably it's a bug that a page-flip sound is made in this case, which we should fix in short order. In the meantime, the above procedure should bring you the silence you seek.
Cheers,
-- Scott
PS: In a current Squeakland image, the Trash's "book" menu can be obtained by clicking on the black dot in its header. In an OLPC-etoys image, bring up the halo on the trash tool, and from the halo menu choose "book..." to get the trash's "book" menu. In that book menu, click on "visual and sound effects..." and from the resulting submenu choose "set sound effect for all pages", and choose "silence" at the desired sound effect.
On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:21 PM, Mark Nelson wrote:
How do I silence the 'camera' sound when items go to the trash bin, while keeping the 'preserve trash' functionality? I thought I had this solved when I found the "TrashCanMorph >> playDeleteSound" message, but this is a 'ping' sound that plays simultaneously along with the 'camera' sound. I successfullly eliminated the 'ping' by commenting it out in "TrashCanMorph >> moveToTrash" but I haven't been able to figure out who's responsible for generating the 'camera' sound. Thanks, --Mark
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Mark Nelson wrote:
How do I silence the 'camera' sound when items go to the trash bin, while keeping the 'preserve trash' functionality? I thought I had this solved when I found the "TrashCanMorph >> playDeleteSound" message, but this is a 'ping' sound that plays simultaneously along with the 'camera' sound. I successfullly eliminated the 'ping' by commenting it out in "TrashCanMorph >> moveToTrash" but I haven't been able to figure out who's responsible for generating the 'camera' sound. Thanks, --Mark
Funny coincidence, I fixed this for OLPC image yesterday. Try filing in attached change set. You have to empty the current thrash and close it, then the new instance will not make camera sound.
Karl
'From Squeakland 3.8-05 of 7 September 2005 [latest update: #552] on 12 December 2007 at 6:32:24 pm'!
!Utilities class methodsFor: 'scraps' stamp: 'kfr 12/12/2007 18:29'! scrapsBook | header aButton label | ScrapsBook ifNil: [ScrapsBook _ BookMorph new pageSize: 200@300; setNameTo: 'scraps' translated. ScrapsBook color: Color yellow muchLighter. ScrapsBook borderColor: Color darkGray; borderWidth: 2. ScrapsBook setProperty:#transitionSpec toValue: (Array with: 'silence' with: #none with: #none). ScrapsBook removeEverything; showPageControls; insertPage. header _ AlignmentMorph newRow wrapCentering: #center; cellPositioning: #leftCenter. header setProperty: #header toValue: true. header addMorph: (aButton _ SimpleButtonMorph new label: 'O' font: Preferences standardButtonFont). aButton target: ScrapsBook; color: Color tan; actionSelector: #delete; setBalloonText: 'Close the trashcan. (to view again later, click on any trashcan).' translated.
header addMorphBack: AlignmentMorph newVariableTransparentSpacer beSticky. header addMorphBack: (label _ UpdatingStringMorph new target: self) beSticky. label getSelector: #trashTitle; useStringFormat; step. header addMorphBack: AlignmentMorph newVariableTransparentSpacer beSticky. header addMorphBack: (aButton _ SimpleButtonMorph new label: 'E' translated font: Preferences standardButtonFont). aButton target: Utilities; color: Color veryLightGray; actionSelector: #maybeEmptyTrash; setBalloonText: 'Click here to empty the trash.' translated. ScrapsBook currentPage addMorph: (TextMorph new contents: 'Objects you drag into the trash will automatically be saved here, one object per page, in case you need them later. To disable this feature set the "preserveTrash" Preference to false.
You can individually expunge objects by hitting the - control, and you can empty out all the objects in the trash can by hitting the "E" button at top right.' translated wrappedTo: 190).
ScrapsBook addMorphFront: header. ScrapsBook setProperty: #scraps toValue: true]. ^ ScrapsBook
"Utilities emptyScrapsBook" ! !
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 11:05 pm, Karl wrote:
header addMorphBack: (aButton _ SimpleButtonMorph new label: 'E' translated font: Preferences standardButtonFont).
Karl,
Just curious. 'E' is used as a button icon. Does it make sense to request a translation for it? Is the expectation that the translator would subsitute a suitable letter to mean "to Empty"?
Subbu
subbukk wrote:
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 11:05 pm, Karl wrote:
header addMorphBack: (aButton _ SimpleButtonMorph new label: 'E' translated font: Preferences standardButtonFont).
Karl,
Just curious. 'E' is used as a button icon. Does it make sense to request a translation for it? Is the expectation that the translator would subsitute a suitable letter to mean "to Empty"?
Subbu
In the fix I suggest to the OLPC image I changed the label to 'EMPTY' which I think make it more clear what the button do.
Karl
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