RE: [Squeakland] Tutorials not working quite right - squeakland

30 Sep 2003


      Hi, Sheine -
Well, this is interesting "information"....neither Microsoft nor the 
Foundation are providing any support to Viewpoints or "Squeak" at 
this time.  Many of the Squeakland community have thought it might be 
interesting to propose for funding to the MS Foundation -- and now 
with the recent news of their support to NY schools.  However, at 
this point, what you've heard is rumor OR it may be that they are 
supporting a school and that school is using Squeak but if this is 
the case, I am personally unaware.
best,
Kim
At 11:25 AM -0400 9/29/03, Mankovsky, Sheine wrote:
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Hi.  I met yesterday with one of the TDSB trustees (not running again) who
works for Microsoft.  Her name is Elizebeth Moyer and she is manager for
something related to money to schools for innovation (I think). She said she
thought that Microsoft was supporting Squeak in the U.S. We've never talked
about that and I haven't noticed anything, except that Microsoft/Foundation
might be supporting laptops in schools.
I was thinking of pursuing re the Squeak trial at the TDSB.  However, I
wanted to consult with you first re Microsoft involvement.
Sheine
-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Rose
To: Greg Brunet; squeakland@squeakland.org
Cc: Rose, Kim
Sent: 20/08/2003 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Squeakland] Tutorials not working quite right
Hi, Greg -
Sorry to learn about your hassles....
As far as known problems with IE6 on Win XP I leave that to our
expert, Mike, to address....and will ask him to respond to you.
As far as your trouble with the Paint tutorial -- that Tutorial was
written at a time when the Etoy interface was a bit different and
that 'onion skin' only covered the painting *area* leaving the
remainder of the world/screen uncovered.  We are updating/improving
that tutorial RIGHT NOW and plan to have a better version there for
use very shortly.
When you finish a tutorial, the best thing is to "return to the
browser" and then use your browser's back button to navigate within
the Squeakland site to either do another tutorial or play, explore
other areas.
Thanks for your willingness, and patience as we grow and improve!
cheers,
Kim
At 1:16 PM -0500 8/19/03, Greg Brunet wrote:
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I recently found the Squeakland site and thought it would be neat to
let
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my kids try it out.  Unfortunately, when I went into the tutorials, I
ran into problems on the background and the first (painting) tutorial.
I'm wondering if there is a known problem running the Squeak plug-in on
IE6 on Win XP (though the problem still exists after I escape the
browser),
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or perhaps the tutorials aren't quite ready.
In the case of the background, the right edge of the text is cut off
(I'd guess about 3-5 characters worth) making it hard to read the
article.  Also, if I left click on the text, then use the mouse scroll
wheel (expecting to scroll down in the text), the pictures jump from
the
...
right to the left side, covering the text.  I can't figure out how to
move
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them back off the text.
In the case of the painting etoy, after escaping the browser and
clicking on the paintbrush icon as directed on page 1, a transparent
skin covers the entire screen, not just the working area.  If I try to
click on the 'page' buttons, I end up painting on them instead.  I can
only get rid of the skin by choosing 'keep' or 'toss' on the palette.
I
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can't follow the rest of the tutorial,  because the paint operation
isn't
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staying within the workarea.  Is there a way to fix these problems?
Finally, it's not clear what to do after reaching the end of a tutorial
lesson.  The 'prev/next' buttons on the navigator tab don't seem to do
anything, so I was left with selecting 'quit' which took me back to my
browser with a blank screen and a message "Squeak Plugin <inactive>".
Is there a way to navigate to the next tutorial or at least back to the
webpage?
Thanks,
--
Greg

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