Re: [squeakland] [etoys-dev] [etoys-notify] [JIRA] Created: (SQ-1144) When exiting Etoys, you should be asked if you want to save your work
Kathleen wrote, on the developers list (*) :
I agree with Bert, "explicit saving is the better trade off".
In the Quick Tips appendix of the new I3 book, the author says that Sugar saves automatically to the journal on exit. In the older (2011) version of Sugar that I have, this doesn't happen. Instead there is a Journal icon for explicit save. Should we document somewhere (in the I3 book or elsewhere) which versions this automatic save works in, and which it doesn't?
Can the user tell merely by looking at the icons in the toolbar?
http://en.flossmanuals.net/learning-with-etoys-imagine-invent-inspire/quick-...
... there are already challenges using Etoys very small up/down arrows in script tiles. There are plenty of frustrations for learners ...
This happens for me too, and it is many years since I was a young child.
We should start a new thread about this in the Squeakland list, but it would be really fantastic to see some teachers or children draw some pencil and paper ( so-called lo-fi UI) mock ups for the way tile scripting should or could work. The flexibility of pencil and paper, and the desire to use Etoys, may even lead them towards something that works with both mice and the XO3 touch screen (not to mention trackballs, trackpads and interactive whiteboards.)
David
* http://lists.squeakland.org/pipermail/etoys-dev/2012-December/007565.html
On 24.12.2012, at 15:06, David Corking lists@dcorking.com wrote:
Kathleen wrote, on the developers list (*) :
I agree with Bert, "explicit saving is the better trade off".
In the Quick Tips appendix of the new I3 book, the author says that Sugar saves automatically to the journal on exit. In the older (2011) version of Sugar that I have, this doesn't happen. Instead there is a Journal icon for explicit save. Should we document somewhere (in the I3 book or elsewhere) which versions this automatic save works in, and which it doesn't?
Can the user tell merely by looking at the icons in the toolbar?
Yes, if she sees the "stop" button, it might save automatically. It has the Sugar-standard octagonal shape with a dark square inside:
If instead it shows a round "exit" button with a dark cross-mark on it, it won't save. This is the same icon as shown in Etoys on other platforms:
It mimics the "delete" halo handle. Also, on other UIs than Sugar, the cross is used widely as icon for closing a window.
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squeakland@lists.squeakfoundation.org
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David Corking