squeakland April 2003

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Reminder: Alan Kay/Seymour Papert Talks in Toronto
by sheine.mankovsky2＠tdsb.on.ca 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

I'm writing to remind you to attend/tune into the talks that Alan Kay and Seymour Papert will be giving at the University of Toronto at 7:00 p.m. this Thursday, February 27, 2003. The lectures will be simultaneously webcast and questions can be posed by e-mail. The webcast will be archived, or so I am told:) Sheine

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Repeat?
by tacmanphil＠mac.com 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

I'm working on a little project (i'll use it with younger students if I get it to work). It involves getting an object move a certain number of "steps" (each being a forward 30) in order to go from one point to another. It's actually a simulation of work being done with Roamer floor robots. Anyhow I want the students to be able to figure out how many "steps" the object needs to take...I thought if I could script a repeat tile I could accomplish this part of the project pretty nicely. I haven't seen anything about repeats, though, in the etoy environment. Does it exist? If not, any thoughts anyone? Thanks, Phil

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Roamer sim progress
by tacmanphil＠mac.com 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

So, I'm making progress. I've gotten my Roam1 object to behave very much the way I wanted. When I activate the moveMe script the object moves forward the number of steps set in the slider (whose value is visible in both watchers!), while the reset script/button brings the object back to the starting position and heading. I've duplicated these scripts for the second object (Roam2), however, when I run the moveMe2 script I get an error (MessageNotUnderstood: getNumericValue). The moveMe script also has a getNumericValue call, but it works. Any idea about what's going on? I still want/need to have multiple screens in this project, so I'm working with a stack (even though i should probably change to a Book). How would I duplicate some or all of the objects I see on one card onto another card (page)? I found the copy to paste buffer item but I don't see how to paste ("standard" Cmd-v doesn't work). I was able to duplicate a number of objects but I don't want them on the same screen. Should I embed the objects into the background...but I don't want them on all backgrounds. Probably just on one or two other cards... Well, anyway, here's what the project looks like thus far. Phil

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Flatlanders and The Planiverse
by sebastian.hergott＠tel.tdsb.on.ca 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

In terms of eToys in SqueakLAND, has anyone read this book? thoughts? The Planiverse. Computer Contact with a Two-Dimensional World Author(s): A. K. Dewdney Publisher: Springer ISBN: 0387989161 Format: softback 245pp Price: ?15.00, $22.00 Review Date: March 23, 2001 Review: This book, first published 16 years ago, follows in the genre of Edward Abbot's nineteenth century classic Flatland. The story is written in the style of an academic - in the computer lab of a large university a group of students and their professor are working on mainframe, modelling an imaginary two-dimensional world. Suddenly one student notices that the world that they are building with their graphics program is inhabited! They are soon entranced by a universe in which astonishing tiny creatures, 2-D Ardeans, exist solely on an x-y plane. This mental puzzle invites the reader to imagine how a two-dimensional world might work.. An appendix includes readers' contributions made to Scientific American , following an article about the 2-D universe, from the viewpoints of physics, chemistry, planetary science, biology, astronomy and technology. Source: http://www.booknews.co.uk/Books/1806.htm The more I discuss Squeak with folks, the richer I become. Thanks to C. Matthews for this. _._._._._._._._._ Sebastian Hergott Teacher/Intermediate Program Coordinator - CyberARTS Arts and Information Technology Convener ASA (Academic Services Associate) Don Mills Middle School, tel. 395-2320 17 The Donway East, Don Mills, Ontario, M3C 1X6, Canada sebastian.hergott(a)tel.tdsb.on.ca

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Oops re the reminder for the Kay/Papert talks....
by sheine.mankovsky2＠tdsb.on.ca 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

The website for the Kay/Papert talks is http://real.oise.utoronto.ca/. You will also be able to access the website through the Fields Institute website at www.fields.utoronto.ca/programs/. Start time is 7:00 p.m. (EST). There will also be an opportunity to e-mail questions following the lectures, at approximately 9:00 p.m. And, if all of this works, the webcast will be archived. Sheine

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Flatlanders and The Planiverse
by Origbj＠aol.com 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

Darius: Actually several years ago, I personally contacted A.K.Dewdney and asked him if he would be interested in working with my 4th and 5th graders, who were trying to solve some of the problems posed in Planiverse. We were working collaboratively with a 4th & 5th grade class in San Jose. He was delighted and flew down to meet with the children. He was wonderful, and delighted that the children were so interested in his book and in trying to solve the problems that it raises. The children were using HyperCard at the time and came up with some very clever ways to solve some of the problems posed in Dewdney's book. We never told the children how they were actually solved in the book, but merely posed the problems to them. ie. How would you get to school if you lived in such a world. Amazingly enough, many of there solutions were much like the solutions in the book. We shared our solutions between the two classes. It was a wonderful project. BJ Conn

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Oops re the reminder for the Kay/Papert talks....
by sheine.mankovsky2＠tdsb.on.ca 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

I don't know, but you raised an issue I didn't think of in great detail. I cruised the web to find a site that you might look at for the answer. I searched using the words "world time zones". There were a number of sites. I picked http://www.timezoneconverter.com/ as an example. Hope to "see" you tomorrow. Sheine > -----Original Message----- > From: Esteban A. Maringolo [SMTP:emaringolo@linux.org.ar] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:27 AM > To: squeakland(a)squeakland.org > Subject: Re: Oops re the reminder for the Kay/Papert talks.... > > Hello Sheine, > > What is the start time in GMT? > > Thanks. > > El mi?, 26-02-2003 a las 00:48, Mankovsky, Sheine escribi?: > > The website for the Kay/Papert talks is http://real.oise.utoronto.ca/. > You > > will also be able to access the website through the Fields Institute > website > > at www.fields.utoronto.ca/programs/. Start time is 7:00 p.m. (EST). > There > > will also be an opportunity to e-mail questions following the lectures, > at > > approximately 9:00 p.m. > > > And, if all of this works, the webcast will be archived. > > -- > Esteban A. Maringolo > Buenos Aires, Argentina > "XUNIL EHT NIOJ, XUNIL EHT NIOJ, XUNIL EHT NIOJ"

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Oops re the reminder for the Kay/Papert talks....
by sheine.mankovsky2＠tdsb.on.ca 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

I have a few Squeak demo CD's that I would be pleased to send to people, if I can. However I need to have an idea of how many requests I would be obligating myself to. If you are interested, write with your mailing address. What does MB mean, please? I'm not familiar with your lexicon entirely. I don't quite understand the point you are raising. If the talk is archived on the web, it is available at one's leisure-pleasure, so to speak. Have a great day! It's 8:06 a.m. in Toronto now:) Sheine > -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus Denker [SMTP:marcus@ira.uka.de] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:31 AM > To: squeakland(a)squeakland.org > Subject: Re: Oops re the reminder for the Kay/Papert talks.... > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:53:34AM +0100, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > > > > What is the URL for the Webcasts? Quicktime or Realplayer? > > > > | From: "Mankovsky, Sheine" <sheine.mankovsky2(a)tdsb.on.ca> > | To: "'squeakland(a)squeakland.org'" <squeakland(a)squeakland.org> > | Subject: Oops re the reminder for the Kay/Papert talks.... > | Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 22:48:10 -0500 > | > | The website for the Kay/Papert talks is http://real.oise.utoronto.ca/. > You > | will also be able to access the website through the Fields Institute > website > | at www.fields.utoronto.ca/programs/. Start time is 7:00 p.m. (EST). > There > | will also be an opportunity to e-mail questions following the lectures, > at > | approximately 9:00 p.m. > | > | And, if all of this works, the webcast will be archived. > | > > Looks like realplayer. > > Question: > We were diskussing on squeak-dev that it might be nice to have a talk of > Alan (or a Squeak Demo) available on CD for offline viewing. Shipping > some x-hundret MB around or being connected to the net for 3 hous is not > an option for many people even today. e.g. I only have a fast connection > at the university, but watching video for some hours sitting at the desk > ist not that fun. > > For the squeak.org CD we found a company that allows custom CD production > and delivery worldwide for around $10 per CD, with no set-up fees. > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker marcus(a)ira.uka.de -- Squeak! http://squeak.de

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Flatlanders and The Planiverse
by Origbj＠aol.com 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

Sebastian: It sounds like a great idea for next year. Please keep me in mind if you go ahead with such a project. It has such interesting problems within the book for the kids to solve. BJ

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Reminder: Alan Kay/Seymour Papert Talks in Toronto
by sheine.mankovsky2＠tdsb.on.ca 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

Hi, sorry I wasn't able to reply as I was preparing for the evening. By now I guess you have your answer.... Sheine > -----Original Message----- > From: Darius Clarke [SMTP:darius@inglang.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:41 PM > To: squeakland(a)squeakland.org > Subject: RE: Reminder: Alan Kay/Seymour Papert Talks in Toronto > > > > Will anyone be having an online chat or IM conversation during the keynote > > webcast?

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