squeakland September 2010

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book sprint notes
by Rita Freudenberg 09 Sep '10

09 Sep '10

Hi, I just did put the notes from our book sprint call today on our book sprint wiki page here: http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/Book+Sprint Rita Rita Freudenberg rita(a)isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de

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Re: [squeakland] flaps
by kharness＠illinois.edu 09 Sep '10

09 Sep '10

All, One of the joys of Etoys for me and my students has been that risks can be taken without harm; at the worst 'uninstall and re-install' has been our modus operandi. We have internet always available and I know that isn't true for everyone. Kathleen ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:08:56 +0200 >From: Bert Freudenberg <bert(a)freudenbergs.de> >Subject: Re: [squeakland] flaps >To: "squeakland(a)squeakland.org list" <squeakland(a)squeakland.org> > > On 09.09.2010, at 15:58, Rita Freudenberg wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Steve Thomas wrote: > > Couple of ways: > 1) Use Cmd-, and a menu will pop open with an > option "flaps..." (But this method as I recall, > was discouraged by Bert as it shows other "Non > Etoy Friendly" options. > 2) Make a Copy of the the Flap from the Home > page and drag it into the Supplies Bin. Then you > can drag from the Supplies Bin and put in > another project. You will need to delete all the > information in the flap, but this may be the > preferred way to document for 4.0 as it avoids > exposing the other items from CMD-, menu and > shows folks how to use the Supplies Bin to copy > objects to other projects. > > Thanks! I agree to describe the second way. I'm > wondering how teachers use flaps with kids, #1 or > #2? > Rita > > Cmd-comma is okay. It is the same as the "view > source key" on the OLPC XO. > Cmd-Shift-W offers the full "dangerous" Squeak menu, > dangerous because it allows to save the image which > is not a good idea unless you know what you're > doing. > - Bert - >________________ >_______________________________________________ >squeakland mailing list >squeakland(a)squeakland.org >http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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flaps
by Rita Freudenberg 09 Sep '10

09 Sep '10

Hi, I'm on the paragraph about flaps in the manual. Can someone describe the steps how to get a flap in Etoys 4.0? It will be easier in Etoys 4.1 :) Rita

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interactive simulations in Etoys/Squeak
by Ahmed Mansour 09 Sep '10

09 Sep '10

Hello, I just found that the University of Colorado offer some interesting interactive educational simulations about physics, biology, chemistry... in Java and Flash format. http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulations/category/new I wonder if it is possible to convert them into Squeak/Etoys projects so they can be easily used in OLPC laptop, and also to test the possibilites (and limits of Squeak/Etoys). The source code is available here: http://phet.colorado.edu/en/about/source-code Cheers, ____________________________________________________________ Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4

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book sprint talk today!
by Rita Freudenberg 09 Sep '10

09 Sep '10

Our book sprint is going well this week. For those who are working on it and for everyone who is interested, we will have a skype call today at 12:30 EDT / 9:30 PDT to discuss all upcoming issues. Let me know if you want to join, I'll call you! Greetings, Rita

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Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
by Carlos Rabassa 08 Sep '10

08 Sep '10

Every so often we hear someone saying Etoys is difficult. We talked to lots of people and asked about their Etoys experiences. Our conclusion is that comment frequently comes either from someone who is just repeating what someone else said or from someone who never really tried to learn. Many individuals around the world have succeeded creating Etoys projects. One proof is in the projects published in the Squeakland Showcase: http://squeakland.org/showcase/everyone/ (including 26 projects from South America) Another proof is the number of Squeakers that keeps growing http://squeakland.org/squeakers/ (including 72 enthusiasts from Uruguay). The most frequent road to success we found many used: They used the tutorials offered in the Squeakland website: http://squeakland.org/tutorials/screencasts/ Some watched these original english videos made by Tim Falconer. Some watched the spanish translations by Lino Bessonart and Adrián Manera (Audiovisuales Etoys) offered at: http://rapceibal.blogspot.com/ Many current squeakers were introduced to Etoys at personal presentations by an instructor who learned with those videos. As an excellent complement to the videos, we heard of many current squeakers who used "the Illinois site" meaning the Quick Guides prepared by Kathleen Harness of EtoysIllinois.org a site offered by the Office for Mathematics, Science, and Technology Education (MSTE) at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Kathleen´s Quick Guides are originally in English. You may find them at EtoysIllinois.org or in the Squeakland website: http://www.squeakland.org/tutorials/guides/ You may also find them by clicking the question mark (help button) on the top left corner of the Etoys screen. In the new version of Etoys, Etoys 4.1 soon to be released, the Quick Guides will be in English and also in Spanish when clicking on the question mark help button. A large number of the original english guides have been translated to Spanish by Sdenka Salas Pilco of OLPC Puno, Perú, who on September 3, 2010, responding to our question, told us: "Our dear colleagues were not able to use the marvelous HELP of Etoys, because it is in English. This is why I had to translate it to be able to get it to everyone. Oh, how marvelous it was!! The children were able to learn directly from the little tutorials". Let´s take advantage of all this valuable material. Creating your first project is very easy, a young child can draw a smiling face and save it and, that´s a project to be proud of and tell our friends. If you want to continue into more complex projects, the sky is the limit. I don´t think there is anyone in the world who can claim to know everything about Etoys and to have created all possible projects. There is always a new twist to make a project more useful. Carlos Rabassa Volunteer Plan Ceibal Support Network Montevideo, Uruguay

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Etoys developer chat log
by Bert Freudenberg 08 Sep '10

08 Sep '10

Hi all, almost missed the chat yesterday. And when I logged in I got distracted by #olpc-devel talk. A minute later David came back, but I didn't see that. Sorry. But: If I'm not there, that's no reason not to chat :) Anybody can lead the discussion if it gets too disorganized, but usually we're pretty civilized, so it should rarely be necessary. So here is a rule: Do not wait more than 15 minutes. Just start. I'll see it in the logs later so I can still post a summary (though it would be awesome if someone beat me to it). Anyway, next chat is next Monday, same time as always: http://tinyurl.com/3ytdm3d Hope you'll be there (and I'll try to attend too). - Bert - [21:02:37] --> Richo2 (~c9d56472(a)skylab.immuexa.com) has joined #etoys [21:05:08] --> dcorking (~dcorking(a)82.152.173.174) has joined #etoys [21:05:13] <Richo2> hi [21:06:06] <dcorking> hi Richo2 - when does the meeting start? [21:07:36] <dcorking> is storybot down again? [21:11:53] <Richo2> I think it should have started already [21:13:09] <dcorking> I have only lurked in a couple of these. bertf normally leads them doesn't he? Is randall travelling at the moment? [21:13:31] --> scottwal (~scottwal(a)99-40-5-235.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #etoys [21:17:00] <-- Richo2 (~c9d56472(a)skylab.immuexa.com) has quit (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) [21:21:13] <bertf> hi folks - sorry I'm late [21:21:26] <bertf> you could've started already ;) [21:24:59] <bertf> dcorking: storybot has been down for months, and it's unlikely to come back [21:25:12] <bertf> jecel was looking onto other logging options [21:25:19] <bertf> for now I just email the logs manually [21:26:18] <dcorking> shame: I guess a decision should be made and the link removed from http://squeakland.org/discuss/ [21:36:37] <dcorking> is the meeting starting? if not, any thoughts on jecel's idea on porting Cog VM to the XO-1? [21:38:46] <jecel> I was looking at the Cog sources to get an idea of how complex this would be. It seems doable, but not easy [21:40:05] <dcorking> hmm. Sounds like something that would distract the squeak experts from doing the next Sugar release on time, and not something for average smalltalkers. [21:40:25] <jecel> About the logging, I didn't remember we had agreed that I would check the options and so haven't yet done so [21:40:47] <dcorking> however, I wonder if qemu could be used to emulate the missing instructions: at least as a proof of concept [22:07:44] <dcorking> is the meeting over? [22:10:43] <dcorking> does the showcase still give trouble when a user uploads a new version of an existing project? [23:47:14] <-- dcorking (~dcorking(a)82.152.173.174) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

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Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
by Carlos Rabassa 08 Sep '10

08 Sep '10

Hilaire, Richo, Thanks for your messages that allow us to have a dialog and understand each other. Hope you noticed my message only mentioned Etoys. I didn´t attempt to compare it with any other program. My intention was to compare the Etoys reality with the Etoys reputation among many people who speak about it. Needless to say my research was not scientific, I didn´t claim to have made any kind of formal poll. I am not a professional researcher. I didn´t claim to know everything about Etoys and other programs. All I said originated in many conversations with many individuals. I asked many questions and did my best to understand the answers. Needless to say my sample of the public is heavily loaded with people in Uruguay where I volunteer. One of my concerns with innocent negative comments is they tend to scare many people. "If they all say Etoys is difficult, there might be a reason", is what many think. "When you hear the river is because water is flowing". I didn´t want to be more specific on some of the negative comments but now I feel compelled to clarify what I wrote earlier. I would like to mention a very frequent comment I hear in Uruguay: "In order to qualify teachers to teach, those teachers have to be taught". "The government hasn´t done enough yet in terms of providing courses and learning material to the teachers". Lets stop there. The government has issued hundreds of thousands of XO computers to the children and the teachers. What else do we expect? Isn´t it time for each one of us to do some effort to learn? For those teachers expecting the government to teach them, I see only one hope: That they change their negative attitude. I am confident this is happening already and will happen faster and faster. When a negative person sees someone else who has succeeded, they frequently think again, "why not me?". They will try and they will succeed too. Carlos Rabassa Volunteer Plan Ceibal Support Network Montevideo, Uruguay

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Fwd: [etoys-dev] Fwd: Vote for the best Smalltalk book of the last 5 years...
by Rita Freudenberg 07 Sep '10

07 Sep '10

Begin forwarded message: > From: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Date: 6. September 2010 17:06:20 MESZ > To: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > Subject: [Esug-list] Vote for the best Smalltalk book of the last 5 years... > > Dear Smalltalkers > > this year ESUG would like to reward effort made in book publications. Since we want to push new books but that it takes time to write books we will > take into account a window of 5 years. So you are requested to vote for the best book of the last 5 years. > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Q2LKKDT > > the deadline is until wednesday 15 september at noon > > Stef on the behalf of the ESUG board. > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

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Call for Papers: C5-2011
by Hideyuki Takada 06 Sep '10

06 Sep '10

Apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CFP. Hideyuki Takada, Ritsumeikan University, Japan (C5 2011 Publicity and Publication Chair) ----- Call for Papers Ninth International Conference on Creating, Connecting and Collaborating through Computing (C5 2011) 18-20 January 2011 Kyoto University, Kyoto, Japan http://www.cm.is.ritsumei.ac.jp/c5-11/ Computers, networks, and other forms of technology are pervasive in our information-based society. Unfortunately, most users of this technology use it for passive consumption of information and entertainment. To evolve into a true knowledge society it is critical that we transform computer-based human activities to engage users in the active process of creating, connecting, and collaborating together. The C5 conference is for anyone interested in the use of computers as tools to develop and enable user-oriented creation, connection, and collaboration processes. Researchers, developers, educators and users come together at C5 to present new and ongoing work and to discuss future directions for creative computing and multimedia environments. We welcome the submission of theoretical and technical papers, practitioner/experience reports, and papers that bridge the gap between theory and practice or that encourage inter- and cross-disciplinary study. === Submissions === C5 invites submissions of full papers in (but not limited to) the following areas: * Technology-enhanced human-computer and human-human interaction * Multimedia authoring environments * New technologies for literature, music and the visual arts * Virtual worlds and immersive environments * Gaming/entertainment platforms and infrastructure * Social networks and social networking * Novel programming paradigms and languages for implementors * Scripting or visual paradigms and languages for end-users * Creating and maintaining online communities * Tools for creating/managing online services/environments * Distributed and collaborative working * Educational environments for classroom, field work and online/distance learning * Technologies for collaborative and self-empowered learning * Social and cultural implications of new technologies Papers should be submitted electronically in PDF format via EasyChair at: http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=c511 Submissions must be written in English (the official language of the conference) and must not exceed eight (8) pages. They should use the IEEE 10-point two-column format, templates for which are available at: http://www.computer.org/portal/web/cscps/home === Proceedings === A preliminary version of the proceedings will be distributed during the conference. The formal version of the proceedings will be published by the Conference Publishing Services (CPS) and sent to authors after the conference. For each accepted paper, at least one of the authors needs to attend the conference and deliver the presentation; otherwise the paper will not be included in the formal proceedings. === Dates === Submission of papers: October 8, 2010 Author notification: November 19, 2010 Camera-ready copy: December 19, 2010 Conference: January 18-20, 2011

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