Hi,
As some of you already know, we've started the Spanish version of SqueakLand.
We're active working in translation of all the content produced by SqueakLand and related projects before going to the next step (creation of our own content in Spanish)
We are looking for a way to run the projects (using the squeak plugin) in our image (basically one 3.5 translated to Spanish and some pre-installed packages like true type fonts). By now we have a set of changesets that convert a virgin 3.5 image in the Small-Land image (see http://swiki.agro.uba.ar/small_land/13). Now we're looking for a way to do the same with the plugin-image.
Options I see:
1) Create our own installer of the plugin in Spanish including the changes we want into the image (Ned's connectors, true type font, bitstream fonts, remove of hard-coded fonts, Renewed look & feel, etc).
2) Stuck on a single plug in-image for all of us (English, German, Spanish and a lot of others just coming). In this case we have to find a way to include (or to install on demand) the internationalization part in German/Spanish/AnyLanguage.
What are the politics behind the plug in image? What other options do you see?
TIA,
Diego Gomez Deck http://swiki.agro.uba.ar/small_land
Diego,
I wrote the answer and then it got stuck in my drafts folder. Sorry... See below :-)
Michael
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diegogomezdeck@consultar.com wrote:
As some of you already know, we've started the Spanish “version” of SqueakLand.
Great!
We're active working in translation of all the content produced by SqueakLand and related projects before going to the next step (creation of our own content in Spanish)
We are looking for a way to run the projects (using the squeak plugin) in our image (basically one 3.5 translated to Spanish and some pre-installed packages like true type fonts). By now we have a set of changesets that convert a “virgin” 3.5 image in the Small-Land image (see http://swiki.agro.uba.ar/small_land/13). Now we're looking for a way to do the same with the plugin-image.
Options I see:
- Create our own installer of the plugin in Spanish including the changes
we want into the image (Ned's connectors, true type font, bitstream fonts, remove of hard-coded fonts, Renewed look & feel, etc).
- Stuck on a single plug in-image for all of us (English, German, Spanish
and a lot of others just coming). In this case we have to find a way to include (or to install on demand) the internationalization part in German/Spanish/AnyLanguage.
What are the politics behind the plug in image? What other options do you see?
What politics? ;-)
I woud recommend the second approach so projects can still be shared between different language versions. I've been thinking about an international plugin image that could even switch language depending on the browser language header tags :-)
Try to use the plugin development image and run your scripts to see if you run into any problems.
Another thinng I'll look at as soon as I'm back from the Smalltalk Solutions is to release a newer version of the plugin based on 3.6, including TrueType etc.
Great work!
Michael
Hello All,
All of the sudden, when I save (to local disk only) and reload a project from the Squeaklets folder, I get messages claiming "Trouble resolving server name 'NameOfProject.number.pr'. Keep trying?" After I click "give up" the project retains its functionality but the graphics are horribly blurred.
Interestingly, while the projects were created and saved using Squeakland Squeak, I can load them without any errors or problems on Squeak.org's Squeak 3.5.
Any idea what may be going wrong, and how I can fix it?
Thanks,
J
John,
this has been a series of bugs that have been haunting us forever. The observation that the projects work with a stock Squeak image is very interesting! Could you be so kind to send me one of your projects directly to my email address?
Thank you
Michael
All of the sudden, when I save (to local disk only) and reload a project from the Squeaklets folder, I get messages claiming "Trouble resolving server name 'NameOfProject.number.pr'. Keep trying?" After I click "give up" the project retains its functionality but the graphics are horribly blurred.
Interestingly, while the projects were created and saved using Squeakland Squeak, I can load them without any errors or problems on Squeak.org's Squeak 3.5.
Any idea what may be going wrong, and how I can fix it?
Thanks,
J
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I've just downloaded the Squeakland plugin and installed it on OS X. When I go to the kids projects area and click on one I get either:
the plugin with a menu open saying "there are updates available - load them?" which is frozen (clicks/mouse not tracked)
or:
textified binary in the browser pane
Its the same on Camino and Safari
Anybody know why?
-Todd Blanchard
Am Freitag, 25.07.03 um 20:49 Uhr schrieb tblanchard@mac.com:
I've just downloaded the Squeakland plugin and installed it on OS X. When I go to the kids projects area and click on one I get either:
the plugin with a menu open saying "there are updates available - load them?" which is frozen (clicks/mouse not tracked)
or:
textified binary in the browser pane
Its the same on Camino and Safari
Anybody know why?
Don't know, but I'm experiencing the same problem. The only browser that works for me is IE, which is rather [censored].
Regarding the update thing: The problem for me was that the plugin window on the test page is too small. But you can run Squeak once from the desktop alias, and press Cmd-Shift-W to bring up the World Menu, select "help..." and "update code from server". Then choose "save and quit" from the World Menu. This loads all updates and the next time it should be fine in the browser, too.
-- Bert
Oh, that's unfortunate. Especially since IE is deprecated.
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 06:24 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Am Freitag, 25.07.03 um 20:49 Uhr schrieb tblanchard@mac.com:
I've just downloaded the Squeakland plugin and installed it on OS X. When I go to the kids projects area and click on one I get either:
the plugin with a menu open saying "there are updates available - load them?" which is frozen (clicks/mouse not tracked)
or:
textified binary in the browser pane
Its the same on Camino and Safari
Anybody know why?
Don't know, but I'm experiencing the same problem. The only browser that works for me is IE, which is rather [censored].
Regarding the update thing: The problem for me was that the plugin window on the test page is too small. But you can run Squeak once from the desktop alias, and press Cmd-Shift-W to bring up the World Menu, select "help..." and "update code from server". Then choose "save and quit" from the World Menu. This loads all updates and the next time it should be fine in the browser, too.
-- Bert
Michael Rueger has a copy of a new plugin for Safari. The old plugin will not work with Safari. The new plugin requires some html adjustment since it does not allow the calling of internal browser callbacks to fetch projects. That is why it hangs. It is a bug in Safari, and doesn't appear to be getting fixed any time soon, but as mentioned Michael has a work around for that too.
On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 10:08 AM, tblanchard@mac.com wrote:
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