squeakland August 2010

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Teaching in digital society vs industrial society
by Angel Arias 15 Aug '10

15 Aug '10

en un momento de la intervención de alvin toffler, él habla de un ordenador dentro de un agujero en la pared a disposición de los niños, sin instrucciones de uso y sin instructores. esta "metodología" es conocida como "minimally invasive education" y es el corazón de la iniciativa "hole in the wall" [ http://www.hole-in-the-wall.com/ ]. merece la pena echarle un vistazo. salú++ ángel ;-)

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Re: [squeakland] New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness
by kharness＠illinois.edu 15 Aug '10

15 Aug '10

Carlos, Thanks for your nice comments about the guides and EtoysIllinois! I am glad to know we are helping. Let's check with Bert on whether there is time to add translations to the new release. The original guides have been translated into five languages; Sdenka Pilco did the Spanish. None of the 30 new guides have been translated into any language. I don't know yet which guides will be selected for the new version of Etoys. Rita provided these instructions for translators: http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/How+to+translate+the+Quick+Guides If you would like to collaborate . . . you translate the text in the projects and then send them to me. I will do the rest of Rita's How-to list e.g. replacing scripts, images, and aligning things so they look similar from one language to another. BTW: I enjoyed meeting Mariana Herrera at Squeakfest in Wilmington. Her presentation was excellent! Regards, Kathleen ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:03:56 -0400 >From: Carlos Rabassa <carnen(a)mac.com> >Subject: [squeakland] New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness >To: squeakland(a)squeakland.org > >Kathleen, > >Thank you all for preparing the guides. > >Ted > >Thank you for bringing them to us all together in this impressive lists. > > > >When we had Squeakfest in Brazil last year, I heard many teachers from Uruguay talking about "Illinois". > >The work of Kathleen and her colleagues frequently was the first point of contact between Etoys and the teachers. > > >The presentation is exactly what we should always be preaching: > >Made with Etoys in a format completely compatible with the XOs. > > >Kathleen, > >I know some of this material has already been translated to Spanish. > >What is the status? > >I had promised to translate the Etoys Manual as soon as it is ready. > >But maybe I should start translating whatever is not in Spanish yet from your guides. > > > >Interesting, how different we all are. > >As a senior citizen with engineering background, the idea of a formal manual was very much appealing to me. > >But, as we were recently discussing with some of you, our main target should be teachers, they are the ones with the most power to take full advantage of our efforts. > >It seems Kathleen´s guides are probably more appealing than formal manuals to the teachers using Etoys. > >Please let me know where to point my efforts. > >Carlos Rabassa >_______________________________________________ >squeakland mailing list >squeakland(a)squeakland.org >http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland

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language
by Carlos Crosetti 14 Aug '10

14 Aug '10

Hi, when I start Etoys 4, the language is English, and turns to Spanish that is my Windows XP language. How can I fix Etoys to stick in Englisg, mmust I change some env var, .ini? Regards, Carlos

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Teaching in digital society vs industrial society
by Carlos Rabassa 14 Aug '10

14 Aug '10

I have just watched a most interesting video a friend pointed out to me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlAnkExQabY The ideas presented in the video seem to be correct and most interesting. Even more, it seems to me the opportunity of having all those XOs already distributed, we might have the perfect opportunity to apply these ideas. Of course, I am just a volunteer. I would really like to listen to the opinion of teachers, educators and other experts. Mi impression is that, as Mr. Toffler says, the problem he describes in the U.S., is not an exclusive problem of this country. We will see it in other countries as they go from industrial to digital societies. Who is the speaker in this video_ ¿Quién es el orador en este video? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler Carlos Rabassa Volunteer Plan Ceibal Support Network Montevideo, Uruguay

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Re: [squeakland] [etoys-dev] New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness
by Steve Thomas 14 Aug '10

14 Aug '10

Ted, Can you send a copy of the code you used to extract the images from the .pr files. This would help me (and others) document some of my projects. Thanks, Stephen On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Ted Kaehler <Ted(a)vpri.org> wrote: > Dear Education Committee: > I forgot to say a big thank you to Kathleen Harness for writing > these new guides. She has created an impressive body of work! > Mind-bogglingly useful. > Kathleen's proposed guides are now visible as web pages. Each guide > is on a web page. The index of pages is on the left. Just click down the > list on the left, and see the guides. Please take a look. It's easy. > > http://tinlizzie.org/quickguides-for-approval/basic-guides-11-Aug-2010/ > > http://tinlizzie.org/quickguides-for-approval/advanced-guides-11-Aug-2010/ > > Bert and I are preparing all of the translated guides for the upcoming > release. > > > --Ted. > > -- > Ted Kaehler > Viewpoints Research Institute > http://www.vpri.org/html/team_bios/kaehler.html > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev >

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edu team meeting notes
by Rita Freudenberg 13 Aug '10

13 Aug '10

From the last education team meeting Thursday, August 12: Avigail reported from a workshop she did together with Kathleen Smith and Kathleen Harness. It went very well, the teachers were interested and worked long hours. corr. from Avigail: The workshop I reported about was for high and middle school CS teachers, was organized by Prof. Lenny Pitt, Dr. Morten Lundsgaard, Kathleen Harness, Kathleen Smith and Avigail Snir. Became possible by a grant from GOOGLE. Rita reported the recent news about planning a Squeakfest in Uruguay next year. Mariana already started talking to people. Now she needs a letter from Squeakland where we state what is special about Etoys, why it is important to have the event etc. The education team will start writing it. We also talked about ideas for online courses. We'll try to get funding for the development, it could be a joint effort with UNCW, EtoysIllinois, University Magdeburg, Uruguay, Brazil. Then we talked about the upcoming Etoys release. We think we should not change the look of Etoys to indicate that we have a new version. We don't want to confuse users. It is sufficient to have the version info in the about flap. We need to come up with a structure for a website for teachers, we need to define what should be on the first page, what comes next etc. We do already have a lot of material, we need to figure out how to present it better. You can also find the notes from the last education team meeting here: http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/2010/08/12/edu+team+meeting+August+12 Greetings, Rita

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New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness
by Carlos Rabassa 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

Kathleen, Thank you all for preparing the guides. Ted Thank you for bringing them to us all together in this impressive lists. When we had Squeakfest in Brazil last year, I heard many teachers from Uruguay talking about "Illinois". The work of Kathleen and her colleagues frequently was the first point of contact between Etoys and the teachers. The presentation is exactly what we should always be preaching: Made with Etoys in a format completely compatible with the XOs. Kathleen, I know some of this material has already been translated to Spanish. What is the status? I had promised to translate the Etoys Manual as soon as it is ready. But maybe I should start translating whatever is not in Spanish yet from your guides. Interesting, how different we all are. As a senior citizen with engineering background, the idea of a formal manual was very much appealing to me. But, as we were recently discussing with some of you, our main target should be teachers, they are the ones with the most power to take full advantage of our efforts. It seems Kathleen´s guides are probably more appealing than formal manuals to the teachers using Etoys. Please let me know where to point my efforts. Carlos Rabassa

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Re: [squeakland] New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness
by Steve Thomas 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

The only one I would suggest we add is the http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuMakeNewFlap1.011.pr to the basic set of Quick guides.It seems to me (based on personal experience and working with kids) it is really hard to discover how to do this. Also Based on Bert's comments in SQ-529 <http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-529> he seems to agree. There seems to be no easily discoverable way to create a flap. There is a > menu item for creating flaps in the "source" menu which pops up when you > press the special "view source" key on the OLPC XO laptop. On other machines > this is mapped to Cmd-Comma. I think we might want to add the "flaps..." > entry from that menu to the World's halo menu (or maybe just the "make a new > flap" entry? See SQ-530 <http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-530>). > And we should put a plain flap into the object catalog, maybe on drag-out it > would perform the same series of questions as when clicking the menu item. I agree Kathleen's quick guides are great, I had kids show me things I did not know about and when asked they said they found them in the quick guides. FYI, I could not find http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/EtoysInfoEtoysCalculator.001.pr got a "Object not found - 404 Error" Stephen On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Ted Kaehler <Ted(a)vpri.org> wrote: > Attention Education Committee! > > Kathleen Harness has made some new QuickGuides for Etoys. I have > divided these into two groups. Some of them, the "Basic Group," should > probably go into the default set of QuickGuides. > Others of them are about advanced features and are in the "Advanced > Group". I am recommending that the advanced ones NOT be included in the > default QuickGuides. > > Could the Education committee please approve the new Basic > QuickGuides to go into the release? > The Advanced Guides will be available at etoysillinois.org or > perhaps as a zip file. > > It was my intension to produce a web page with images of all of the > Basic guides, and another page with the Advanced guides. If you want to > wait until tomorrow, you can decide this after looking at those pages. > > You can download them and drop them into your QuickGuides folder > from here: > Basic Guides: > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/SuppliesPlayersTool.007.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/SuppliesHolder.010.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ScriptTileWrap.014.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ScriptTileOverlapsDot1.008.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ObjectCatPolygon1.006.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/NavBarToggle.012.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ScriptTileTwoColorTest.008.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/NavBarHideShow.007.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuTicksPerSecond.013.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuDropShadow.024.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuDecimalPlaces.007.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuPainting.005.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuGrid-andSnap-toGrid.008.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuBringtoFront.010.pr > > Advanced Guides: > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ScriptTileRemoveAll.008.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ScriptTilePlayfldCount.005.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ScriptTileObtrudes.014.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ObjectCatThreadNavigator.008.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ObjectCatPreferences.006.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/ObjectCatEventTheatre.008.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuSelect-aGroup.004.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuMakeNewFlap1.011.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuKeyboard-alt-comma.004.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuEtoysVocabulary.015.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/MenuEtoysSource.001.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/HaloSiblings.004.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/HaloActiveHandles.005.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/EtoysInfoTileProgramming.008.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/EtoysInfoOOPL.005.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/EtoysInfoMulti-media.006.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/EtoysInfoEtoysCalculator.001.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/EtoysInfoErrorMessages.017.pr > http://www.etoysillinois.org/sl/EtoysInfoConstructTiles.007.pr > > --Ted. > > -- > Ted Kaehler > Viewpoints Research Institute > http://www.vpri.org/html/team_bios/kaehler.html > _______________________________________________ > squeakland mailing list > squeakland(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland >

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New Etoys QuickGuides by Kathleen Harness
by Ted Kaehler 12 Aug '10

12 Aug '10

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Re: [squeakland] Thursday ed team meeting
by Bert Freudenberg 11 Aug '10

11 Aug '10

On 11.08.2010, at 16:10, <kharness(a)illinois.edu> wrote: > Rita, > I have an appointment at the meeting time tomorrow and will have to miss this week. I'll read the notes. > > Re: the agenda item about changing the opening screen > All three of the Tutorials and Demo projects are good and I have seen many students try them but, two need some revisions. > > The Self repeating demo has Navigator Bar graphics from a previous version of Etoys and the locations of things are for older versions too. Text 'You can make things with Etoys' floats up into the NavBar and the ' red text design and paint a car' floats too far down and persists past the page it was intended for. Could the page with 'you can learn to drive a car' be redone using an event theatre like the paint a car page did? Otherwise when a beginner clicks on the blue steering wheel it just sticks to the cursor and no steering results. Getting a halo and using the blue rotate handle is not mentioned. Well, it's supposed to be just a teaser. In the gallery there is a project explaining the steering. That could be mentioned/linked of course. > page 6 the spaceship landing scripts and buttons do not show completely, maybe whole the book could be a little bigger. If someone works on this, please open a ticket on the tracker and attach the revised project. > Demon Castle, can/would the author make a few changes to the project? It is introduced as the first tutorial in a series but there is not a second one. > The art work is very appealing to kids however, Demon is a problem word in some cultures. I have had students who could not sing Happy Birthday, nor any religious, patriotic, nor songs of celebration of any description in school. They could not sing songs about Halloween for example. Demons, witches etc may push away people from other cultures and religions. The word magic will be a similar problem. Magic could be changed to the word knowledge or power instead, I think those would fit most cases. NB I get a bug report on page 7 and unless one already knows how to open the extra page controls the book ends there, too soon and too baffling for beginners. > Page 10 of the book says " to be continued" but there is no book two for a successful beginner to find. That project is already updated (though I have no idea what you mean with "bug report on page 7"): http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-668 Another thing to discuss might be which QuickGuides to ship - Ted pointed out that some of the new ones might be too advanced to warrant taking up space in the default download (plus they are not translated yet). - Bert - > > The Etoys Challenge all works. > Regards, > Kathleen > _______________________________________________ > etoys-dev mailing list > etoys-dev(a)squeakland.org > http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/etoys-dev

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